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Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:57 pm
by Baja Burley
Put the lux through its first comp tis weekend (suspension stuff challenge) and broke both engine mounts on the 3rd track. Ruling us out of track 4... It's a 308 in an LN65.

I asked another guy there with a 5L efi in a lux and he said he uses oem mounts, breaks em all the time but still puts oem ones back in :? Silly I thought, but, each to their own.

Question is, what are you using that is stronger than oem, what are the disadvantages of a solid pin type mount?

Cheers
Luke

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:09 pm
by zuffen
I've done well with Valiant Slant 6 mounts.

I used them on my blown Lexus (450-500hp) and they outlasted a set of Jaguar V12 mounts (tougher version of Rover mounts) by a factor of 4.

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:14 am
by stinger
One trick we used on old cruisers was to weld a couple of links of chain on either side to the mount to limit extension, rubber still did its job, but chain prevented mount open up too much and tearing...

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:37 am
by Draven
Yea that's exactly what ive had to do...

http://www.monster4x4.com.au/blog/2012/ ... ne-mounts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:49 pm
by gu town
my friend built dubai spec 500 rwkw+ turbo 4.8 patrol. He used patrol trailing arm bushes. they seem to be doing the job really well.

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:57 pm
by 76 Tourer
Or make something like these up ..

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Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:01 pm
by stock 4runner
I run rubber spring bushes. Bit rough till they bed in but not too bad now

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:51 pm
by evanstaniland
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Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:32 pm
by ethann

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:13 pm
by Shadow
that will be rough as fuck with them wont it?

might aswell just hard mount the engine!

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:27 pm
by Baja Burley
Yeah I'm not so keen on those mounts using the suspension style bushes. It's a road car as well so needs to have decent manners on the blacktop. What effect would they have on engine life being such a solid mount?

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:37 pm
by Micka
Buy some Rover ones and drill right through them and bolt them in. The mount acts like a massive rubber washer giving you enough play and is 1 gazillion times stronger than standard. You'll never need to buy mounts again.

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:46 pm
by rockcrawler31
I find this surprising.

If guys can mount big blocks and heeee-uge diesels without tearing up mounts then why can't it be done in a dirty old holden motor?

If you're REALLY having this issue then build a engine plate for it.

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:56 pm
by -Scott-
I'm guessing the mounts aren't installed in the correct location, so there's too much shear on the rubber.

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:24 pm
by MICK77
-Scott- wrote:I'm guessing the mounts aren't installed in the correct location, so there's too much shear on the rubber.
^^ This.

Cheers,

Micko

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:28 pm
by Baja Burley
We ended up buying new mounts and bolting them through with high tensile 12mm. If they break, then I'll just do the mount as above with leafspring bushes

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:21 pm
by MikeH
leaf-spring style bushes, use genuine bushes which are often rubber to soften the vibration. don't forget the gearbox / transfer.

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:00 pm
by Shadow
http://www.advanceadapters.com/products/pn-713088/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


these are what ive used for my LS1 into 80series chassis

http://www.advanceadapters.com/products/pn-713008-ns/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; the mounts go together like this so you have a rubber biscuit above and below the chassis mount. the engine mount sits ontop of the top biscuit, bolt down through the engine side mount, through the top biscuit, through the chassis side mount, through the bottom biscuit, then a nyloc nut.

should still be a very good engine mount for vibrations, and no possibility of the engine breaking free as it would have to completely squash the bottom rubber to nothing and then the bolt will still top out on the chassis mount.

Re: Tough Engine Mounts

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:13 pm
by old lux
we had this issue a lot with our V8 SCANIA truck at work always tearing passenger side engine and Gearbox mounts.. Chained the Fucker down Engine And Gearbox Issue Solved