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Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:08 pm
by brad 93hilux
Well I bought the winch as a rebuilt item off a guy off eBay, and never got a chance to load it up and test.
I got the truck on the car trailer and pulled out rope and back hooked it to front of trailer to pull front suspension down a bit, and it winches in fine but does not hold the load when you let go of button it ratchets back out..

Should have hooked it to a tree last weekend to test but didn't now I need to try to fix this afternoon if possible (Toperi tomorrow..

Any ideas?

Cheers brad

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:42 pm
by Shieldsy
Check your brake pads

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:50 pm
by brad 93hilux
Just splitting it apart now, got the top cover off..
Just not sure if ill know what I'm looking for as I've never built one

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:53 pm
by Shieldsy
Put a g clamp on the brake itself and don't loose any of the bearings!


You should have 2 brake pads in there, maybe one if the others fallen to bits

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:55 pm
by Shieldsy
The brake is on the side of the winch

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:01 pm
by brad 93hilux
Got a 'f' clamp on top but trying to get circlip off

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:17 pm
by brad 93hilux
Got it apart, both brake (clutch?) washers in there and 21 ball bearings.. Can't see any problem..

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:18 pm
by brad 93hilux
So I guess I'm missing 3 bearings
Is there 4 per hole in plate?

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:34 pm
by brad 93hilux
Ok so I was Wong where they go there, so I have enough bearings..
Just have no idea why brake isn't working

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:22 pm
by Shieldsy
Ring 0438332583 mate


Crazy eyes winch mods

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:14 pm
by brad 93hilux
Shieldsy wrote:Ring 0438332583 mate


Crazy eyes winch mods
Thanks for that, called him but there is no obvious things wrong with it, so I put it all back together..
Man them ball bearings are a PITA :bad-words: when winch is still on truck..

Going to find (or try to) assembily drawings and might pull it back apart again..

So still no sure what's happening..

Brad

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:51 pm
by Shieldsy
Yea it's fucked if you loose one of those bearings!

But hopefully you get it sorted!

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:01 pm
by brad 93hilux
Worse thing was doing it on the car trailer which is a high one and pulling it apart over gravel.. So drop one (and I did quite a few) its looking for a needle in a haystack..

Got some drawings now so might pull it apart again when we get to the event.

Thanks for the help.
Brad

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:10 pm
by shorty_f0rty
Isobie has done 4 vids on the Warn 8274.. Here is #1/4 which might help you out..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXLnAqgRpFE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:05 pm
by brad 93hilux
Yeh there good vids, that and drawing ill definitely pull apart again, though not sure how its not working..

Cheers brad

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:52 pm
by BUSTED100
i'll ook for a manual in the morning if you want (call us if it's still required)

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:21 am
by brad 93hilux
Yeh a manual would be good of you have it thanks steve

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:01 am
by 76 Tourer
Inside the top housing you will find a cam that activates the brake , check to see if that is not binding and is free on its shaft .

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:47 am
by brad 93hilux
Yer thanks for that, when I get up there today I will pull it apart and check it out. The disc and pad side is all put together right so that seems like it would be the only cause
Brad

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:41 pm
by some_guy
Id be checking the cam gear like mentioned above
Before you pull it apart a quick check you can do is to try and rotate the outer brake disk by hand while holding the inner still. If the cam gear is free and working properly the outer disk should rotate and pull the two disks together applying pressure to the brake pads

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:08 pm
by brad 93hilux
Got winch fixed now.. Cheers guys

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:06 pm
by XTREME MMM
Was the rope on the right way?????? That will cause a similar problem.

Re: Urgent! Warn 8274 brake problems

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:24 pm
by brad 93hilux
XTREME MMM wrote:Was the rope on the right way?????? That will cause a similar problem.
You are on the ball!!! I pulled it apart before comp on thurs, and re assembled it to find nothing wrong.

I didnt wire it up and have never used a highmount.

Turns out my sparky mate made a mistake and the winch was running backwards, when we got to Toperi we pulled off rope because it was spooled the wrong way (this was just before I was going to pull it apart again).. And presto, winch is working

I thought brake worked both directions but after having dis-assembling it I can see it can only work one way (how it is designed)

Embarrasing but I did not know and will not forget.

Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated
Brad