Outer Limits 4x4 Board

How do you get it off to replace it? I thought it might have something to do with the 2 bolts that anchor the pin, but apparently not.

I mean it's easy to get it off by prying it over the lip of the pin but I'm sure there's a proper way to do it, and I need to know how to put the new one in without fucking it. Maybe something to do with what appears to be a small hole through the middle of the pin ?

There used to be an entire swivel housing rebuild thread in here, but I can't find it

Cheers

to replace the bearing, you will need to strip the hub and remove the swivel housing. You wont be able to remove/replace the inner bearing shell with the knuckle assembled.

Yeah I've done that, just can't work out how to get the bearing off. The bottom one is fine as it just sits there but the top one is held captive.

Edit : So I ended up hacking away at it till it came off. One of my manuals says you need a bearing press to put it back in but I'm hoping it will just pop on with a bit of pressure.

The picture shows the bottom pin on the Left and the top on the right. You can just see the lip of the top one that had me confused.

Top and bottom bearings are exactly the same part, and both just sit there, what is holding it captive?

Do you mean the bearing or the cup? There is a Toyota special tool mentioned in the shop manuals, but never seen or used one.

Umm just rereading you say it will come of if you pry over the lip of the pin, the pin shouldnt have a lip on it, but basically lever it off the end of the pin, and tap the inner race on with a punch is the method. or asemble the knuckle and tap the pin back in place.

Hilux_Ryan wrote:Top and bottom bearings are exactly the same part, and both just sit there, what is holding it captive?

Cheers mate, that clears it all up. I thought there were two different types of bearings, but looking at it now the lip on the top one is just the cone bit that the outer race sits on. ie I'd left half the bearing on the pin, assuming it was the pin.

The bottom one just dropped out complete, covered in grease. If I was paying attention I might have noticed the similarities

Thanks guys

i read somewhere that you can clean up the pins with some fine sand paper and get the bearing to slip on with a minimum of interference. makes getting it off in the future much easier. and if you are changing the bearing you should set the preload again. i had to take mine on and off a few times to get it right, glad i smoothed the pins out abit. cheers brenton

Also make sure there is enough preload - needs to be fairly firm to move. Otherwise they flog themselves out. The manual specifies the amount - I use a pair of fishing scales to measure the force - 1 kg weight = approx 10 Newtons of force.

On their website locktup say to use 10-15kg of force on the pull scale for tyres over 33 inch. This is without the felt on and with the swivel housings free from the tie rod.

I just tightened mine up with the shims that were already in it, it seems a bit firm but kinda has a nice feel to it. I don't have any shims so hopefully it will be alright on the road.

That sounds right - they are supposed to be fairly firm. Usually the same shims are correct.

I did the swivel hubs/kingpin bearings on an 80 last year, (first time for me) and the Toyota dealer here told me there's very little demand for the shims ie supposedly don't need changing in most cases. I was expecting quite a bit of stuffing around to get them right.