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Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:33 pm
by bananas
A couple of times ive got mud in between the bead and the rim which has then got under the bead resulting in a leak. Any ways to stop this from happening, some sort of deflector? Pressures have been high, nothing below 15psi.
Not wanting to get beadlocks yet.
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:44 pm
by evanstaniland
Don't drive in mud?
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:11 pm
by the gun
What he said
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:07 pm
by GUtripper
Run higher pressures.
Mud in the bead is a part of wheeling in mud.
Maybe make sure the rim and bead are really clean next time you have to strip the tyres off and reseat it.
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:22 pm
by stilivn
Trailer queen or onroad car?
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:32 pm
by rockcrawler31
remove the tyres and fit caterpillar tracks
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:08 pm
by Big_GQ
Sikaflex 227
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:49 pm
by bananas
evanstaniland wrote:Don't drive in mud?
I've notified the Nobel committee of your
special brilliance.
GUtripper wrote:
Run higher pressures.
Mud in the bead is a part of wheeling in mud.
Maybe make sure the rim and bead are really clean next time you have to strip the tyres off and reseat it.
I was running 30psi, so im not sure higher pressures will do much. Frankly im sick of deseating, cleaning and reseating beads. But if thats what i have to do...
stillvn wrote:
Trailer queen or onroad car?
On road trailer queen on 35 pedes. I take it out just so i dont forget what sounding like a small cessna flying by is like, then back on the trailer.
Big_GQ wrote:
Sikaflex 227
would it dmage the tyres at all? How strong is it and how hard to remove when i have to get the tyre off for whatever reason?
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 8:23 am
by rockcrawler31
bananas wrote:
would it dmage the tyres at all? How strong is it and how hard to remove when i have to get the tyre off for whatever reason?
Depends how good friends you are with your local tyre changer and if you want to STAY friends with him.
If you use Sika expect to have to use an angle grinder to get the tyres off
If you don't like smart arse comments then you've come to the wrong place BTW. This is outers, and since i note that you've been a member since 2013 i'd say that you might like to learn the ropes before AJFeroza comes to visit you with the twin dicked goat for some interspecies erotica.
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:17 am
by brad 93hilux
Lol.. Yeh I almost wrecked a relationship between myself n a tyre fitter with sikaflex. Bloody strong stuff but don't use if your planning to pull it apart anytime soon.
Just go neutral cure silicone and make sure you clean first with solvent so it'll stick, you can still get that apart.
Brad
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:53 pm
by V.W.Dave
You can aply the sika after the tire is already on. just make the hole at the end of the tube really small. Then use your finger to rub along the crack between your tire and rim. If you do it right it will get enough in there to "help" stop the mud from getting in there.
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 12:52 pm
by Guy
mechanical bead locks ..
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:17 pm
by bananas
love_mud wrote:mechanical bead locks ..
Are internal beadlocks (second air type ones) alright as a softcore option? ive seen ads for them but no idea if they go alright and how much they cost
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:23 pm
by the gun
bananas wrote:love_mud wrote:mechanical bead locks ..
Are internal beadlocks (second air type ones) alright as a softcore option? ive seen ads for them but no idea if they go alright and how much they cost
Having had internals and have mates that still perseve with them mechicals are the go. No more skined knuckles from repairing punchures in the inner tube or flat tyres. And ur local tyre joint wont frown when u pull up.
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:29 pm
by MogLux
the gun wrote:bananas wrote:love_mud wrote:mechanical bead locks ..
Are internal beadlocks (second air type ones) alright as a softcore option? ive seen ads for them but no idea if they go alright and how much they cost
Having had internals and have mates that still perseve with them mechicals are the go. No more skined knuckles from repairing punchures in the inner tube or flat tyres. And ur local tyre joint wont frown when u pull up.
IM with you Mate ... extrnal beadlocks for sure
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:25 am
by Guy
bananas wrote:love_mud wrote:mechanical bead locks ..
Are internal beadlocks (second air type ones) alright as a softcore option? ive seen ads for them but no idea if they go alright and how much they cost
they are a "bit" better but still not a patch on mechanicals .. from what I have seen on truck I have been out with.
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 1:17 pm
by old lux
brad 93hilux wrote:Lol.. Yeh I almost wrecked a relationship between myself n a tyre fitter with sikaflex. Bloody strong stuff but don't use if your planning to pull it apart anytime soon.
Brad
i ruined my relationship with him when i took some 35'x13.5" maxxis mudzillas to him on 16x10" alloy rims(that he wasnt aloud to scratch and he had to do them with levers cause they were to big for every machine in town. all 5 of them. hated me after that,
i play in mud all the time bro. run my 35" claws at 12-15 psi every trip and every trip or so i take off tyres and go to thre shop. they charge me $10 a tyre and fully strip and clean the beads every time. i havent worried bout tryking to stop it cause itll only keeo the stuff in there
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:29 pm
by Ryano
Regularly use the sikaflex. Gotta make sure the bead of the tyre and seat of the rim is really clean before applying.
I hate myself when the tyres come back and need changing. Adds about 10-15min/wheel to the fitting time in order to clean all the old sikaflex off and reapply.
Mechanical Beadlocks are a better long term solution, not legal though.
Internals are good for keeping the bead area at higher pressure. I still use sikaflex on them too though.
Re: Getting mud in bead. Any solutions?
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:09 am
by Kenny250
I had a set of staun internal bead locks, they still let dirt in the sides, they cause vibrations, ull never find someone to fit tyres to ur rim without stuff the second airs, so i sold them and bought creeper locks from snake racing best buy eve,