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hey guys,

just looking at some led lights bars and wanted peoples opinions and what not. I know there has being other forums but they end up too long and what not.

This eBay one is cheap as chips! I know they say cheaper the shitter but its 100 bucks can you really go wrong?

if you wouldn't mind could you post up what u've brought and what you thinks the best e.t.c

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/24INCH-120W- ... 4d08e22d94" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

im thinking of trying one of these out ^^^ anyone ever heard of them?

cheers

The LED light looks OK, and is very good value. Be warned that I bought a LED light bar from an Ebay seller and it said that it was a combination flood/spot light. When I received the unit, the box said “Flood”. I queried the seller and he dismissed it saying that that is how they all are. Not happy! This lightr looks the same as mine. Anyway, for my purposes (driving through the Snowy Mtns), this light is ideal. It splats a white light from fenceline to fenceline, but really lacks penetration down the road. Maybe 200 m maximum effective range. It has picked up a few roos already.

Not sure about where you live, but there has been a lot of discussion about legality of single LED lights lately. Apparently the design rules state you must have them in pairs with a minimum separation. What a load of bovine excreta!. All I can say is that anyone on the receiving end of my LED light is not going to know if there is separation between the lights or not – they won’t see a thing. My LED is switched via the high beam circuit only and can also be cancelled even on high beam. Certainly, the LED demands respect – any oncoming driver who doesn’t dip their lights needs only a very brief flash and down they go. I have never had to remind them again!

We recently bought a new Pajero (too much money then – not now). Interestingly, the new car has only a single low beam bulb (not twin filament), so low beam stays on when high bema is switched. The low beam are projector lights and have a sharp cutoff but wide spread beam, which is almost as good as the LED. Certainly the effectiveness of the LED is not as marked as it was on our old Pajero. We also have a new Outlander and this has the same lighting arrangement. They are both very good lights as standard fitment, and in reality, I may not have bought a LED light if I had such good lights on the old car.

You do get what you pay for. How long will it lady add the best way to get cheap led s to be bright is drive then hard but then they due very quickly. Also think about his week a 100 dollar one will be sealed

There is good cheap and junk cheap. Buy cheap, you may end up buying twice. Yes, LED has improved, but the good gear is that far ahead it really doesn't get left behind.

Aurora 5w bars get a good report, in terms of output and quality. Price seems very competitive too.
There are literally thousands ( well, hundreds) of people selling LED gear now. Take your pick.

Where are you based? (Edit: I just re- read, Canberra). I know a couple of good guys to deal with in Melb Burbs, and no, I'm not on a commission. They do free postage too.
eBay.... It's a lottery, but its your money. Personally, I never buy cheap with a view of possibly replacing it within a year or two. I'd rather buy good now and be happy with it for the next 5-10 years.

date wrote:The LED light looks OK, and is very good value. Be warned that I bought a LED light bar from an Ebay seller and it said that it was a combination flood/spot light. When I received the unit, the box said “Flood”. I queried the seller and he dismissed it saying that that is how they all are. Not happy! This lightr looks the same as mine. Anyway, for my purposes (driving through the Snowy Mtns), this light is ideal. It splats a white light from fenceline to fenceline, but really lacks penetration down the road. Maybe 200 m maximum effective range. It has picked up a few roos already.

Not sure about where you live, but there has been a lot of discussion about legality of single LED lights lately. Apparently the design rules state you must have them in pairs with a minimum separation. What a load of bovine excreta!. All I can say is that anyone on the receiving end of my LED light is not going to know if there is separation between the lights or not – they won’t see a thing. My LED is switched via the high beam circuit only and can also be cancelled even on high beam. Certainly, the LED demands respect – any oncoming driver who doesn’t dip their lights needs only a very brief flash and down they go. I have never had to remind them again!

We recently bought a new Pajero (too much money then – not now). Interestingly, the new car has only a single low beam bulb (not twin filament), so low beam stays on when high bema is switched. The low beam are projector lights and have a sharp cutoff but wide spread beam, which is almost as good as the LED. Certainly the effectiveness of the LED is not as marked as it was on our old Pajero. We also have a new Outlander and this has the same lighting arrangement. They are both very good lights as standard fitment, and in reality, I may not have bought a LED light if I had such good lights on the old car.

Amazingly, Queensland has led the way with regards this ADR. Its now legal, as of 3 May 2013, to have an odd number of auxillary lights facing forwards in Qld. Basically, LED light bars are legal in Qld, without the separating bit in the middle to make it look like a pair of lights. Hopefully the other states and territories follow suit quickly.

aw really ^^^^ that's awesome!

I don't actually know what the rules and regulations are in Canberra but i have myn on top of my bulbar and i am guessing that's illegal like having a spotlight on top :/

I ended up buying a $130 eBay cheapy to give it a try! Its good enough for what i need! works well in very thick bush, once i get a pair of spottys it will fit in well!

The relevant legislation.

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Safet ... emay13.pdf

What it says,

Vehicle standards instruction (general 15.0)
Fitment and use of driving lamps including light emitting diode (LED) light bars on vehicles
Released May 2013
The Department of Transport and Main Roads has recently dealt with a number of issues relating to the use of
LED light bars, fitted to the front bumper bar or bull bar on some vehicles, as driving lamps. The main issue
faced by vehicle operators is that when a light bar is used as a driving lamp on a vehicle manufactured from
1991, Australian Design Rule (ADR) 13/00 requires that either two or four lamps are fitted.
Transport and Main Roads is of the opinion that this ADR requirement was set before the introduction of LED
type lamps and the requirement does not reflect this new technology.
To ensure national consistency, Transport and Main Roads raised this issue with the Australian Motor Vehicle
Certification Board, who have endorsed a change to the ADR to allow an odd number of driving lamps to be
fitted to vehicles. Until this update to the ADR is made, Transport and Main Roads has provided this Vehicle
Standards Instruction for ADR vehicles and vehicles manufactured prior to 1991.
Requirements for the fitting fitment and use of driving lamps including Light Emitting Diode (LED)
Light Bars on Vehicles, excluding motor bikes and motor trikes.
• The lamps should, as far as is possible, be installed symmetrically in pairs to the front of the vehicle.
• If lamps are not fitted as pairs (e.g. one, three etc), they must be fitted to the front of the vehicle,
symmetrically about the centre.
• The lamp/s must be installed in a way that the light produced does not cause the driver of the vehicle
discomfort either directly or by reflection.
• The lamp/s must only come on when the main-beam (high beam) headlamps are used, and must
automatically turn off when the main-beam headlamps are turned off.
Note: This exemption from complying with a part of ADR13/00 only applies in Queensland and may not be
recognised in other states or territories. Vehicle operators who travel between states and territories must
ensure that lamps fitted to their vehicles comply with the requirements in each state or territory.

This Vehicle Standards Instruction (VSI) was originally issued as H25.0, but is now being re-issued as a
General category VSI. VSI H25.0 is now repealed.
Further Information
For further information about the vehicle standards, please contact Vehicle Standards and Modification Advice
on (07) 3114 5844 Monday to Friday, 10:00 am–4:30 pm.
Related Documents
Transport Operations (Road Use Management—Vehicle Standards and Safety) Regulation 2010
http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGIS ... VSSR10.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Australian Design Rule 13/00 Installation of Lighting and Light Signalling Devices on other than LGroup
Vehicles
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Series/F2005L03991" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Guideline for the use of LED light bars as driving lights on motor vehicles in
Queensland
Form 31
Version 1
1 Guideline Authority
This guideline is issued pursuant to section 14 of the Transport Operations (Road Use Management
– Vehicle Standards and Safety) Regulation 2010 (the regulation) in accordance with Part 4 Section
22 of the Statutory Instruments Act 1992.
2 Commencement Date
This guideline commences on 3 May 2013.
3 Regulatory Provision Exempted
This guideline is issued as an exemption from complying with clause 7.3.2 of Australian Design Rule
(ADR) 13/00 as required by the Transport Operations (Road Use Management—Vehicle Standards
and Safety) Regulation 2010 Schedule 1 Section 8(1).
4 Application
This guideline applies to any vehicle manufactured to comply with ADR13/00 and is fitted with an
uneven number of lamps that are used as a driving lights.
5 Operational
a. A vehicle described in 4 may be fitted with an uneven number of driving lamps, provided the
lamps are fitted symmetrically about the centre of the vehicle.
b. All other requirements of both ADR13/00 and the regulation relating to these lamps must be
complied with.
6 Vehicles manufactured prior to ADR13/00
While no regulatory exemption is required, to ensure the requirements for vehicles manufactured
prior to the commencement of ADR13/00 that are fitted with uneven number of driving lamps are
clear, the requirement of 5(a) above also applies.
Signed in BRISBANE this 29th day of April 2013.
[Original Signed]
Delegate of the Chief Executive
Department of Transport and Main Roads

All you need to do is buy 2 light bars !!!!

cheap enough

http://www.led-light-bar.com.au

i bought one of the 24 inch 120w jobs in flood beam because i run 2 HID spot beam spotties..

Had it since august and it gets used 4 to 5 nights a week. I had my ute in multiple water crossings where the light bar was under water and it still works fine.

Can't go wrong for $120

I recently upgraded my frontal lighting, ditching the 2 100 watt halogen Roolites, in favour of 2 Great Whites 75 watt round LED spot lights. These are in addition to the 44 inch light bar, and 2 HID Cibie Super Oscars. I am now pretty happy with my frontal lighting. And it gets used almost every time I go to work.

I bought the Opt7 32 inch SPAM for my 05 F150. It is an awesome light I installed it on a smitty built light bar, had to do a little fabrication to get it fit but wasn't that hard. The wiring that comes with light harness is pretty top of line.

tonytai wrote:I bought the Opt7 32 inch SPAM LED light bar[/url] for my 05 F150. It is an awesome light I installed it on a smitty built light bar, had to do a little fabrication to get it fit but wasn't that hard. The wiring that comes with light harness is pretty top of line.

Have many F150 trucks in vietnam do they?