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High Steer Issues

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:38 am
by Baja Burley
After putting new perches on the 60s diff, the leaf pack sits higher on the diff tube and fouls hard on the tierod on droop. Im just running standard Toyota rod ends at the moment with a Trailgear highsteer setup. I need a way to raise the tierod off the highsteer arms further. I have thought of using heims with misalignment spacers to gain height but I figure that's too much leverage for a ~12mm bolt in single sheer.

Any ideas? Is there a balljoint end out there with a slight step up in it? im sure ive seen them before.. maybe not with a Toyota taper though..

Luke

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:13 am
by Z()LTAN
Have you done a cut/rotate to get your Castor angle back?

Can you take out some of your smaller leaves?

I was sprung over with high steer and thick parabolics back in the day and never really got close.

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:44 am
by Baja Burley
Yeah mate did a knuckle cut. Caster is at -3. The front pack is 38mm thick. The reason it's hitting is because the pumpkin is larger on 60 diff, I had the 'climb' up the side of it a bit, meaning the perches sit higher in relation to axle centreline than a hilux diff...

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:46 am
by Baja Burley
I really can't afford to take out any leaves as the pack goes WELL negative already with the big old V8 over the top of them.

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:25 pm
by Shadow
only one solution then, 5 link and coils :P

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:51 pm
by Elmo
Hmmmm that's a bit of a predicament.

Haven't seen it so only picturing in my head, but 3 immediate things jump to mind as possible ideas.

* Could you outboard the springs a little to drop it down off the perch?
* Could you cut in to the diff centre housing directly under the spring perch and lower it down as that is normally just dead space inside there.
* Or most expensive and potentially too much leverage on your knuckles but you could get an engineering mob to copy your high steer arms but machine up a new set with say 10mm extra height?

Who knows man, just throwin ideas out, but my pick would be the second option

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:31 pm
by Baja Burley
Thanks blokes. all good ideas. I ended up just dropping a leaf. I didn't want to but it now works and we're driving again!! It still touches but just a love tap on full lock now. Mischief managed!

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:58 am
by Z()LTAN
Drop the perches, notch the drivers side one into the pumpkin.

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:00 am
by brad 93hilux
I think ^^^ is the go above, my buds housing had that problem and buddy had to cut down the spring perch height so it cleared better

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:43 am
by Baja Burley
I had nearly pulled it all apart to notch the perch into the housing but it seems it will handle OK with minus one leaf. Is it often seen to have a Trac or Wrap bar on front leaf setups?? I know it wrapped pretty bad in the back before linking it, never really saw any sign of it in the front but maybe now it will???

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:16 pm
by offroadboss
Absolutely yes! Best thing I ever did to the front of mine was put a wrap bar in. Ask Wicked about the difference it made to his. Stopping the little bit of wrap stopped his thing from pulling wheel stands as easily and just generally put drive down much better

Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:57 pm
by WICKED
Myself, off-road boss, shrek zook and sprung up cruiser have fitted them recently and all we have all noticed a massive imporvment in the cars!!


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Re: High Steer Issues

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:39 pm
by Baja Burley
Cheers for the piccies Ben. Is there any 'give' built into yours? In the rear, there is always a shackle or slip&twist design. Yours looks like heims and tube and solid as hell!!