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76 series auto conversion
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:47 am
by bru21
I am now looking at keeping the 76, but it needs the POS midgets clutch pedal and box of spanners gone ASAP.
The main issue is the tiny foot well with my size 12 feet, as there is no room beside the clutch. City driving is terrible, and I am doing it at least once a week for most of the day.
Does anyone know if the 200 series auto unit would be a straight forward swap?
I would imagine the bell housings would be identical.
I see for 18k you can get wholesale autos to do and older auto, but that is some BIG $.
Be better off selling the 76 and getting a GX 200 for that money.
I like the Allison 1000 option, but it means a new bell & transfer case ect.. and I am time poor at the moment.
cheers bru
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:59 pm
by joshy
I think marks are doin a kit for the 6l80? Something about it on lcool.
May aswell strap the 2nd turbo on while your at it if you go for a 200 auto.
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:21 pm
by turbo gu
bru21 wrote:I am now looking at keeping the 76, but it needs the POS midgets clutch pedal and box of spanners gone ASAP.
The main issue is the tiny foot well with my size 12 feet, as there is no room beside the clutch. City driving is terrible, and I am doing it at least once a week for most of the day.
Does anyone know if the 200 series auto unit would be a straight forward swap?
I would imagine the bell housings would be identical.
I see for 18k you can get wholesale autos to do and older auto, but that is some BIG $.
Be better off selling the 76 and getting a GX 200 for that money.
I like the Allison 1000 option, but it means a new bell & transfer case ect.. and I am time poor at the moment.
cheers bru
The Allison would be nice but I bet it wont be a cheap option.
I have a Mate that builds them and even at his price its an expensive choice. We looked at putting one in my GU but just wasn't worth it.
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:57 pm
by CRUZAAMAD
After what the 76 is worth before mod..
and plus costs of mod and said car
you might be better off getting the 200 new
base model for same money
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:39 pm
by Shadow
I think your better off getting the gx200
otherwise i would try and drop a complete 200series engine and auto package in there
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:52 pm
by bru21
Thanks for the replies fellas.
I'll keep looking into it.
Having an Allison 1000 in my shed looking at me makes it tempting.... But the car would be off the road for months - not exactly something I need right now.
cheers bru
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:56 pm
by CRUZAAMAD
This is your other option.
A 200 thats been in fresh water
only to the sills
statutory write off
swap out the twin turbo motor and box
sell your engine and box
said link here
http://www.lcool.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:00 pm
by sup8pdct
Don't forget that the front tailshaft for the auto box/transfer is on the left hand side instead of the right hand side. Which means it will never line up with front diff. No idea if the 76 transfer will even fit to the auto box.
James
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:03 am
by bru21
sup8pdct wrote:Don't forget that the front tailshaft for the auto box/transfer is on the left hand side instead of the right hand side. Which means it will never line up with front diff. No idea if the 76 transfer will even fit to the auto box.
James
Really!
Never looked
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:13 am
by bru21
CRUZAAMAD wrote:This is your other option.
A 200 thats been in fresh water
only to the sills
statutory write off
swap out the twin turbo motor and box
sell your engine and box
said link here
http://www.lcool.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm not a member there, I'll sign up and have a look.
cheers
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 3:44 pm
by evanstaniland
Twin turbo won't fit without them being top mounted or remote mounted.
Wholesale trans quoted me $22k with brand new box. And its only a 4 speed td100 auto.
Thought the 200 auto woulda been easier. If love an auto in my ute but big $$$
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 3:53 pm
by evanstaniland
Marks adapters 6 speed conversion looks way more appealing than the wholesale transmission 4 speed conversion.
Whole sale kit is $19k
Marks $13.5k
http://www.marks4wd.com/6-speed-auto-co ... 20200.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:55 am
by bru21
Thanks mate! It appears that it is 12.5k for early orders, and appears fitted for that price.
I wonder what the dealer pricing is?
6L90e is a sweet box.
I'll call on Monday cheers!
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 12:43 am
by evanstaniland
Yea I've sent an email asking a few questions, if that includes fitting was one of them so will post here once replied.
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 9:54 am
by bru21
Sweet.
It is something I want to do under the EVA banner, and install for customers, so I'll see what they come up with.
Allison would have been my first choice, but their one will be easier!
cheers bru
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:42 pm
by evanstaniland
The $13.5k is for kit only. Install is extra.
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:22 am
by bru21
They replied and said no dealer price yet, and they will let me know.
Those boxes are only 3-4k new if you look around, bell 1k, controller 1k, rear transfer adapter $500, Rad 1k
Would have thought the kit would have been 8 or so?
I might have to do the Allison kits!
If only I had more hours in the day!
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:55 pm
by evanstaniland
Is it a new box or reco?
There will also be money being recooped from R&D into the kit.
I'm waiting to hear back on an installed price.
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 1:20 pm
by bru21
New for that price.
They are not a 'special' box by any means (common as)
The 6l80e is identical - although has narrower gears with slightly reduced torque loadings.
Eg crate 6l80e complete in Aus for $2650
http://holmart.com.au/online/prod355.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think this box would be plenty behind the small output of our trucks.
I did some digging around for the 6l90 a while back, and they are very similar in price.
The Allison is a different league all together and is built for aftermarket use. They have 3 speed sensors from the factory etc.
Have a look in my tt build thread for a pic.
I can get hold of the output to transfer adaptor already - so It's just a bellhousing that is needed.
I am at a loss as to why development seems to cost a lot?
I would think it would be a matter of grabbing Solid works, aligning 2 drawn faces, machine a pattern and sand cast / machine the finished part.
Sure 5k would cover that. I gues setting up the controller would take some time.
I would love to do it - but I'm so time poor ATM!
cheers bru
Re: 76 series auto conversion
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:39 pm
by evanstaniland
Year don't understand the crazy costs. And that's why the wholesale conversion is crazy expensive!
But I don't think the adapting is the hard part. They still have to control it and then package it do its "kit" compatible. They said the transfer mounts etc are all the same and the interior would be a pain to retro fit and keep it clean! But still doesn't make it that expensive!