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being a yank...I know about this truck. It is really nicely done up. I do wonder what his reserve is though, he must have a ton of cash into this rig!

I saw one not long ago on ebay that was in Europe. It was a crew cab UTE G-series that had a canvas on the rear and hard top on the front, badged with the Puch badges. It was less $$$ than this truck but stock. It was really cool and suposidly very rare with only like 400 ever made.

This is a very cool car, and I have been in contact with Chuck, however, IMHO it now shares almost nothing with a G except the shape. Whilst I am no purist, I think that most of the stuff that gives them their appeal is in the "odd" driveline. This car has a fully North American driveline.

My Old Lady's partner has a white stock g-wagon. Kinda odd trucks of you ask me and underpowered as hell. Being a 2.3 (or 3 L unsure of which) asmatic diesel with a auto. You have to be a patient person.
Definate bonus is they are coil sprung and come with factory lockers in both ends (cable operated). Not to many of the beasties about from what I haven't seen.

Cheers,

Alec

Kinda interesting the underpowered thing. Mine weighs 2500kg across a weighbridge, and while it's not real quick, compared to other diesel 4X4/s of the day its OK - As an example it is pretty comparable to a 3b engined middy or shorty. Considering the auto v manual power loss etc, that's ok by me.

I would like more power, but not at the expense of breaking things, and I haven't broken anything in over 7 years, including 5 years on Q78's.

There is a whole heap of cool stuff about them - plenty of gearing, very clean under chassis, nothing hanging down plenty of driveline strength, nice amount of room, plenty of wheelbase etc, and VERY strong panels. - wierd stuff too like 8 bolt driveshaft fanges, massive uni's etc.

Most people who have been off road with mine will admit it is pretty capable.

Chucks though is a different kettle of fish - LT-1/T700R4/Atlas/9"/D44.
As I said, pretty much all of the weirdness has been built out. I am sure it is hell capable though.

Not usre how he went with rear suspension geometry though. Stock G's suffer a bit with excessive antisquat - "jacking" under power, so a SWB with 300HP must be a bit of a handful on big compound angles.

PS generally, for swb's the petrols are 2.3 4cylinder, either auto or manual.

for LWB, 3l 5 cylinder OM617 diesel all auto. - 66kw/185nm

This is true of Australian delivered cars. If it is a private import, anything is possible, they were made plenty of different ways.

There was also a 2.4l 4 cylinder diesel, but this only had 55kw and never came to Aus officially.

The lockers are hydraulic, not cable. Mine have been perfectly reliable, hever even topped up the fluid, but pre 85, there were some issues with actuator rod length- they could slip under very high load.

good info guys!! would have liked to bought one but couldn't be bothered to look for one!
steve was yours aus delivery or import?

Mine was an Aus delivery car. All of the cars for aus delivery were manufactured in 1982, and then launched in 1983, however, demand was a little, er, slow, so it took MB until 1986 to sell them all. In that time there were a number of upgrades retrofitted - incuding the diff lock upgrade and the fitment of a heavy duty fan hub.

After 1986, the cars were available on special order only, and by 1988, they were withdrawn from sale. Throughout their sales history, they were about the same price as a Porsche 911, or approx 50% dearer than a range rover.

Used values now are pretty variable - anything from 5K up. I saw one for sale recently for 27K - this was a 1986 car with an aftermarket turbo- I think this might have been a bit steep!


Quite a few have come to the country as grey imports. I have seen a couple of SWB 300gd's ( I don't believe these were Aus delievered) A LWB 280ge (twin cam 6 cyl petrol, mechanical injected, quite quick) and one or two G300 later model (early '90's) types.

I have twice come across one of the Project perentie evaluation cars. The one I have seen was offered for sale twice in melbourne, and was purchased the second time by a geology student who was using it in Northern NSW. This car was a full length LWB soft top, with folding windscreen and sliding windowside windows. It was a 4 speed manual.

This car appeared to have been tarted up by MB after the end of the trial and then sold, as it had alloys, flares and was painted white, but had all the military stuff too.

Gwagensteve wrote: This car was a full length LWB soft top, with folding windscreen and sliding windowside windows. .

Cool, i want one

i saw one about 18months ago in a caryard here in brissy for $9990

I assue that is a "normal" Gwagen, rahter than an ex Perentie evaluation car?

Daddylonglegs apparently had a perentie car through 4X4 motors in the mid-late 80's, and that one was still olive drab (hmmm olive drab droool)

Mercedes in Mulgrave used to have a trayback LWB in drab (hmmm olive drab droool) as a parts runner for some years. sometime ago I found some pictures of this on the web, and saw it in the flesh twice over the years.

unfortunately i've only seen 1 in the flesh in that sand colour.
would be kinda cool to pick one up based on the info you said steve... and yeah lwb softtop!!
just a bit about parts accessibility, even though you said nothing goes wrong!!

I think that most of the stuff that gives them their appeal is in the "odd" driveline

care to go into this more and/or provide pictures!?

there is a g wagen in today's courier mail car section swb 280ge $15500 iirc

I have just come back from japan this week and i saw quiet a few over there with v8's, atleast i think they were a g wagon, all had v8's.

Not to mentions i saw some crazy lifted prado's and the like.

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G-Wagens are still available new over here in Germany, and they offer some with pretty big engines.

There was also a 230GD, with a 2.4?L diesel. A mate picked one up for e600 ($1000AUD) for a 1983 model.

This is a 230GD.

And check out the wheel on this one - a 5-door 280GD - It would be great offroad!!!

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ISUZUROVER wrote:And check out the wheel on this one - a 5-door 280GD - It would be great offroad!!!

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I cant wait to get my muddy boots on that interior.

now that white G is seriously butt ugly!! And those rims are sooooo stoopid it didn't even make me laugh. What crack head put those on there!

It is just way to white and the wood trim looks out of place. And here is something odd about the ad, if I read it right and I do not read german well but it says 34 bids but the ad/page has only had 27 views!!

Mmmmm how 1986

I haven't ignored the "wierd drveline" question, I just haven't had time to write all the wierdness down. Maybe tonight.

Well the girlfriend still has the 300GE and her brother has an AMG V8 under the bonnet of his. Its the only 4x4 I have seen that does 4 wheel burn outs.

Gwagensteve wrote:Kinda interesting the underpowered thing. Mine weighs 2500kg across a weighbridge, and while it's not real quick, compared to other diesel 4X4/s of the day its OK - As an example it is pretty comparable to a 3b engined middy or shorty. Considering the auto v manual power loss etc, that's ok by me.

Not usre how he went with rear suspension geometry though. Stock G's suffer a bit with excessive antisquat - "jacking" under power, so a SWB with 300HP must be a bit of a handful on big compound angles.

No crap, my cousin's was turbo'ed (by mercedes) and my 3B 4 speed landcruiser had more through all gears and would smash him in top end, with 33's and 35s on. LOL. The funniest thing is my other cousin beat him in a 'L' Hilux, 2.2L diesel dual cab, every single time. Even with heavy toolboxes on the back. EVERY TIME. We all raced each other home every day for about 4 years! The G-Wagen was always DEAD LAST, by a country mile.

The G-Wagen was auto, turbo, and apart from that fully stock. Stock rims, stock tyres, stock massive jacking antisquat in the KFC drive through (about 3" worth if you stalled it up LOLs)

The suspension in them is pathetic, the engines are gutless and even turbo'ed the ratio's are so poorly done they cant get out of there own way!

Having said that, it towed quite well, and even VERY heavy loads, and it wouldnt be noticeably slower no matter how much weight was behind it.

LOLs, comparable to a 3B
Not even comparable to a 1L

His was the 300GD, 3L 5 cylinder. The bigger engine in the class.