Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I have drilled taped and fitted the studs into the hubs , I droped off the axels this morning to have the cones machined out to the larger taper but the bloke obviously dosn't want to do it for some reason dose some one have a tool i can buy borrow or hire that i can do it in the drill press at home or tell me some other options please if i have any ? Thanks Darren

Just herd back from one enginering shop he wants $110 per axel bit of a shock more than i expected .

you can have a hack at them with a die grinder if you're careful - use a cone washer as a template to test fit as you go.

alternatively just ream he holes out to 10mm and run them without the cones, plenty of people are doing that successfully.

I tried making reamers to suit out of coutersink drill bits but they have been too soft to go the distance. a good HSS drill bit ground to the right taper would do the job but a drill bit that diameter is a few bucks. less that $220 though!

do you realy think it will be ok with out the tapered cones as i have been thinking of doing that . Im going to get a second quote at lunch time . Thanks Darren

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=11856

that is the thread where I posted the tech - I have done one on a 75 ute without using the cones. I wasn't happy with it but others have posted that they have run without the cones and it is all happy.


cheers

Brian

I think that the cones are really necessary, and that's why the hubs on japanese stuff doesn't slacken and bust the studs off like the yank stuff. Like ehalf the bolts in a car though, I'm sure it is possible to do without them and and somebody will have.

I saw a hand taper drill in a shop in preston here for $36 - not sure ofthe size is applicable, but it's got to be more accurate than a die grinder.

Gwagensteve wrote:I think that the cones are really necessary

agree

I saw a hand taper drill in a shop in preston here for $36 - not sure ofthe size is applicable, but it's got to be more accurate than a die grinder.

definitely agree. that's why I wasn't too keen on propagating die grinding as an acceptable method.

I think the included angle of the 100 series cone washers is 40 degrees. really not sure. I know it is a less acute angle than the eariler ones.

I had the correct cutter made to do this job and it cost me around the $400 so i dont lend it out as ithe axles are tough material and with the correct speed and lube it cuts fine you stuff this up and it will blunt the cutter then needs a resharpen about $100. I would do your axles for $40 each but you need to get them to me. The included angle of the cutter is 36 deg i had i go with resharpend drills and other cutter intill i had the correct cutter made.
By the way i've got 4 80 series rear hubs and 2 sets of rear axles ready to go with studs collets and modded axles at $250 per vehicle set all genuine Toyota studs collets etc.
Wally

nice work Wally . do you have a pic of your cutter?

I know the problem I was having with making them from drill bits wasn't so much blunting them but I couldn't get them to cut true, would always wander and start making the hole go triangular.

also just for reference do you know the angle for the cones for the 8mm studs?

cheers

Brian

80UTE wrote:I had the correct cutter made to do this job and it cost me around the $400 so i dont lend it out as ithe axles are tough material and with the correct speed and lube it cuts fine you stuff this up and it will blunt the cutter then needs a resharpen about $100. I would do your axles for $40 each but you need to get them to me. The included angle of the cutter is 36 deg i had i go with resharpend drills and other cutter intill i had the correct cutter made.
By the way i've got 4 80 series rear hubs and 2 sets of rear axles ready to go with studs collets and modded axles at $250 per vehicle set all genuine Toyota studs collets etc.
Wally

I had just about given up and went and bought a drill bit at lunch i was going to just bore a hole and fit it but i am very willing to get you to do them at $40 each ( but ill have to pay buy cheque made out to C-ASH ) Im comeing to Melbourne the week end of the 14 15th either one day or the other would you be able to do it then while im there to save on freight etc . Pity i didn't know about the axels and hubs you have b4 i bought the the studs etc will keep them in mind though just wanting to get the POS going again at the moment Thanks Darren

If you can get there Saturday morning the 14th I'll be there to lunch time then im off to Licola for the Great Divide Trail Ride with my dirt bike and i don't know what time I'll be back on Sunday night.
Im in Berwick near Dandenong.

Wally

80UTE wrote:If you can get there Saturday morning the 14th I'll be there to lunch time then im off to Licola for the Great Divide Trail Ride with my dirt bike and i don't know what time I'll be back on Sunday night.
Im in Berwick near Dandenong.

Wally

The wife is going to city today and staying over night you being in Dandernong obviously isnt an option ill do what you offered though thanks please PM me your contact number thanks Darren