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Snow chains
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:45 pm
by EricB
Hi
On a GQ should you put chains on the front or back?
Going to Buller tomorrow, hopefully I wont need to put them on.
Cheers
Re: Snow chains
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:55 pm
by bogged
EricB wrote:Hi
On a GQ should you put chains on the front or back?
Going to Buller tomorrow, hopefully I wont need to put them on.
Cheers
all 4
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:58 pm
by EricB
I only hired 1 set
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:04 pm
by bogged
EricB wrote:I only hired 1 set
Wouldnt a set be 4?
Ask the rangers when you get there. or call em
Re: Snow chains
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:07 pm
by bagsy
EricB wrote:Hi
On a GQ should you put chains on the front or back?
Going to Buller tomorrow, hopefully I wont need to put them on.
Cheers
I doubt youll need them any way , but i d put them on the back and have 4x4 engaged if theres snow on the road...
We drove down from hotham last year when they had 40 cm in 24 hours with no chains just in 4x4. Police didnt think it was funny when they asked us about our lack of chains. All we had was a set for 13 inch holden rims and we were running 35 s . No fine either
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:17 pm
by EricB
Cool, thanks
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:32 pm
by OzJeeper
Sorry to butt in, but, the chains should be fitted to the FRONT wheels so you retain steering and driving as well.
And only 1 set is needed.
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:36 pm
by christover1
I'd say rear, if you are climbing steep hills in off road situations, also the front has more chance of chain damage to steering parts, personal preference probly? but I agree with steering comment. christover
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:38 pm
by bogged
good point ozjeeper...
no use having all the drive on earth, and no steering!
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:09 pm
by OzJeeper
Clarification here.
SNOW - front wheels and have steering and drive. Ice is bluddy trecherous and with no steering you can roll it or hit snow banks hard. It's fun actually hangin' the back out on an icy road...
MUD - Rear wheels for traction. The fronts are not compromised for steering ability in this case.
However, if the truck is running Simex ET2's then chains are just extra carried weight
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:39 am
by Gwagensteve
Fully agree OzJeeper. Go on the front, but I don't think you will need them If you have decent tyres.
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:47 am
by moose
followed a Magna , up to Lake Mountain !!
chains on the ............
REAR !!!!
1 guess wat nationality they were !!!!
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:37 am
by bogged
moose wrote:followed a Magna , up to Lake Mountain !!
chains on the ............
REAR !!!!
1 guess wat nationality they were !!!!
he had a pubic hair stuck in bak of froat?
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:27 pm
by LEXX
Yer don't know what the go is up at lake mountain. Went there 2 weeks ago and there was a sign telling people that after this section snow chains we advised. Ther were about 40 sedans all parked on the side of the road puttig on chains, mind you there was not a hint of snow to be seen at this point.
We laughed and laughed as we drove past.
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:34 pm
by bazzle
I prefer chains on the back if only have 1 pair and drive slowly, seen chainned front 4wds spin down hill as tail comes around when packed or icy.
But it also depends on what sort of snow driving, if your the 1st on a foot of snow front sometimes needed to pull up on top.
Bazzle
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:58 pm
by Fathillbilly
lock in hubs engage 4WD
and
Front Front and Front
unless you have 2 sets
RWD is scary on ice and i know i drive on it every year
with chains on the front you have steering, brakes, and power. the last 2 you try not to use to much of
I have been drifting at 90deg around CRB corner (on the way up to Mt Hotham) with 8mm square diamond chains on front.
if i only had them on the rear i would have gone straight of the edge, like 4 forbies which went off there 2 weeks ago with chains on the back.
all this said on the new BMW, pajero, merc and toyota toy things you cant fit chains on the front.
Stu
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:52 pm
by EricB
Thanks guys, I didn't need them this weekend.
I would have thought front to retain steering but the place where I got the chains said its best to check.
Thats very funny about the magna with chains on the rear.
All the landcruiser taxis at buller had no chains with the fresh snow. They have lots of fun driving up there!
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:14 pm
by grimbo
In the Alpine resort areas you have to legally carry snow chains but 4wds don't have to fit them i believe, whilst 2wds do where the signs tell them to.
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:05 pm
by aazz
In NSW as soon as you enter the national park you must be carrying snow chains, unless you drive a four wheel drive or all wheel drive, they are exempt. If you want to be sure send an email to the NSW National Park and Wildlife Service that is what I did and that was the answear I got. I have been going from Jindabyne to Perisher and Thredbo for years and have never put a set of snow chains on my GQ Patrol and I have never had a problem with sliding, steering or loss of control. Just lock the hubs put it in 4H and take it easy.
But I believe the laws in victoria are different.
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:08 pm
by grimbo
yeah the laws are slightly different, it applies to resort areas not the national parks. So if you were going to Mt buller you would need them but not to Mt Skene etc. best bet is to check with the local authorities
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:41 pm
by moose
Fathillbilly wrote:all this said on the new BMW, pajero, merc and toyota toy things you cant fit chains on the front.
Stu
was about to post the same thing !!
hired some nice Sorel snow boots from Wayne Ritchies , in Ringwood ,
& on there "snow Chain fitting guide" , there was a list of newer "4wd,s", that you most "NOT" fit chains to the front !!!
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:41 pm
by cj
This was on site for Konig chains
Special Note for ML MERCEDES (M class) drivers
For Snow chains must be fitted to all 4 wheels in M class vehicles. The 4ETS traction control system requires that all wheel speeds are maintained at a similar speed , if not the 4ETS system applies the brake to the wheel that is showing a speed difference. If the speed difference is maintained for an extended period of time the 4ETS system will cease operating and the vehicle will not have the capability of all wheel drive.
Switching off the ESP stability system will only isolate the throttle control system and not effect the ability of the 4ETS system to distribute drive torque to the wheels.