Outer Limits 4x4 Board

"We, the 4WDers listed below, are concerned that the next generation Nissan Patrol will have Independent Front Suspension. We believe that Nissan should ensure that the Patrol maintains its tradition of being a great offroad vehicle and we believe that there is a market for strongly constructed, full sized. live axled 4WDs and that Patrol is that vehicle. Yours sincerely. Future Patrol Buyers"


Add your yes vote to our online petition at:

http://www.patrol4wd.org

probably a complete waste of time but at least we can say we tried....

i'm in

where's the "no" vote button ????

V8Patrol wrote:where's the "no" vote button ????

No, u loser

OOOOOOooooooooooooo... 61 votes...

I can see Nissanman on the phone to headoffice in foofooland right now.

I think we would require another 4 zeros on that to make any difference.

You would think that being the last 4wd with lives, they would just up the motor to an economical V8 diesel and V8 petrol in both auto AND manual in both, and clean house on the market.

or the amended poll which if you read between the lines....

"We, the 4WDers listed below, are concerned that the next generation Nissan Patrol will have Independent Front Suspension. We believe that Nissan should ensure that the Patrol maintains its tradition of being a great offroad vehicle and we believe that there is a market for strongly constructed, full sized, live axled 4WD running 46" claws, twin lockers, turbo'd 5.7 GEN III V8, Warn 8274 hi-mount, kevlar panels, tray-back dual-cab, hose-out cabin, onboard air-inflation, 90 degree approach and departure angles, and that the Patrol is that vehicle. This would be the luxury model, but the base model would need to be a little more hard core...

Yours sincerely.

Future Patrol Buyers

roly wrote:turbo'd 5.7 GEN III V8

you were on a winner up to the Gen 3 donk.. I thought they had issues with oil pickup and shit like that? it would be no better than the 3.0...

Go with a Powermax for the diesel, and a 383 for the Petrol...

V8Patrol wrote:where's the "no" vote button ????

i second the no vote

bloody biased if you ask me

Yes 100% 88 votes

i wanted to vote no
yeah right! what is that independent crap for?
I'm sure cheezy would vote 'no' so he gets more work doing solid axle conversions

do any of you guys actully buy new 4x4's, i already know the awnser is noooo. Nissan are a company interested in market share, and the majority of the market is families. the thing is by the time all the new gu and the like are 20 years old there will be nowhere to 4x4 legally. There will probably be parks and they wont requrire registration so you will have tube buggys and dream of the old days, a partition from a minority group will do absolutly nothing exept give nissian the idea to put spare parts prices up for the older 4x4 capible vechiles because they no there is nothing you can do a bought it. Might be a grim outlook but just my 2 cents

berazafi wrote:do any of you guys actully buy new 4x4's, i already know the awnser is noooo. Nissan are a company interested in market share, and the majority of the market is families. the thing is by the time all the new gu and the like are 20 years old there will be nowhere to 4x4 legally. There will probably be parks and they wont requrire registration so you will have tube buggys and dream of the old days, a partition from a minority group will do absolutly nothing exept give nissian the idea to put spare parts prices up for the older 4x4 capible vechiles because they no there is nothing you can do a bought it. Might be a grim outlook but just my 2 cents

just bought my second GU in 4 years......

bought the GU for TD live axles and coils

thanks for the reply, but im sure you will be the absolute minority if not only one with a late modle patrol on this board signing this partition, dont get me wrong i will be sighning it but nissan arnt going to give a shit

Big Red Toy wrote:

Yes 100% 88 votes

i wanted to vote no
yeah right! what is that independent crap for?
I'm sure cheezy would vote 'no' so he gets more work doing solid axle conversions

He He, thats funny (correct) but funny.

the greenies are a minority and look how much influence they have

this is true

GU Patrol is the most common vehicle in our (country) 4WD Club. GUs now out number GQs. All but one have been bought new. I bought mine new and will probably be buying another next April.

berazafi wrote:do any of you guys actully buy new 4x4's, i already know the awnser is noooo.

So how do you get second hand 4wds? someone has to buy new, and then lose thousands so we can save it. And in 4-5 yrs time when I want a new car, I dont want I ts F ucked S uspension

ymmv

that was exactly my point they dont care about who b s them second hamd.

berazafi wrote:that was exactly my point they dont care about who b s them second hamd.

but if nobody is going to buy them new... then there wont be second hand.

UPDATE:

Yes 100% 122 votes

bogged wrote:

berazafi wrote:do any of you guys actully buy new 4x4's, i already know the awnser is noooo.

So how do you get second hand 4wds? someone has to buy new, and then lose thousands so we can save it. And in 4-5 yrs time when I want a new car, I dont want I ts F ucked S uspension

ymmv

u did that good bruce, IFS

bogged wrote:I dont want I ts F ucked S uspension

ymmv

Why? What reason do you have for not wanting IFS? It is more comfortable ride and probably offers about the same amount of wheel travel as the front of a GQ anyway!

Sure, it won't suit the hardcore guys due to the limited travel but for 99% of the buyers of new 4WD's its ideal.

ive also picked up a new ute. 2nd patrol in 3 years.
and regarding losing money on new cars..ALL cars lose money
i was lucky tp pick this up for the same price as some 2-3 year old patrol utes at car yards.

Looks like there is few of us that have bought second GU in last 4 years(in my case actually 5 years,'99 and 2002)

getdirty wrote:

bogged wrote:I dont want I ts F ucked S uspension

ymmv

Why? What reason do you have for not wanting IFS? It is more comfortable ride and probably offers about the same amount of wheel travel as the front of a GQ anyway!

Sure, it won't suit the hardcore guys due to the limited travel but for 99% of the buyers of new 4WD's its ideal.

No arguments from me. There will be plenty of IFS trucks for the 99% that you speak of. What we want is ONE vehicle to be available for the other 1%. Got a problem with that?

I agree long live the live axle front end [/b]

AJ wrote:
No arguments from me. There will be plenty of IFS trucks for the 99% that you speak of. What we want is ONE vehicle to be available for the other 1%. Got a problem with that?

I dont have a problem at all, i was just offering a alternative opinion. I would much prefer a live axle than IFS but I would use the vehicle for much more than the manufacturer intended (as most of this board would!).

getdirty wrote: I would much prefer a live axle than IFS but I would use the vehicle for much more than the manufacturer intended (as most of this board would!).

i agree with that

alki wrote:Looks like there is few of us that have bought second GU in last 4 years(in my case actually 5 years,'99 and 2002)

Crikey, youz must be giving them a hiding, I'm still on my first GQ in 5 years, a motor later and some dents but still going strong.

i would buy a new gu right now if they sold them here.there are so few patrols of any kind here,mostly the old 60s.i would love to have a gu ute with the big turbo diesel and 5 speed.