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Inwards Mounted Shocks?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:46 pm
by bubs
Q: How do i do it?

A: Cut brackets and what not at work - then find out you dont have access to a welder - in a hurry - pay someone to do it :P 8) :( :finger:

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 8:13 pm
by Aza
been there seen that :finger: jk looks wicked

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:08 pm
by Pal
The angle is probably more than I would have chosen
Let us all Know how they work with your spring set up :?: .

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:28 pm
by bubs
if you look closely at the top mounting plate - you will see when i designed it and had it cut at work it has mulitple adjustment holes

so i have about 10 degrees of adjustment

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:37 pm
by killalux
are your top mounting pins just bolted in or welded?

i had problems with the nut coming loose on mine so i welded the pins in

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:46 pm
by bubs
killalux wrote:are your top mounting pins just bolted in or welded?

i had problems with the nut coming loose on mine so i welded the pins in


bolted - they are cone nuts so if they are done up correctly they should hold better than nylocs - we are looking at using this on our trencher chains at work

we have no problem with the stud on corys ute

one thing - once a cone was is done up it can't be reused ( it stuffs the thread on the bolt and in the nut ) :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:22 am
by bj on roids
I would go away from that style and try to get them running straight up and down for best results

even if you need to trim the floor somewhat

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:38 am
by Wendle
or tangential to your roll axis.

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:40 am
by bj on roids
I was almost going to suggest tangential to your roll axis!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:05 am
by Wendle
I can't believe it's not butter!

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 1:30 pm
by bj on roids
I cant beleive adrian went off topic and ruff didnt up him :finger:

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:25 pm
by 83 lux
have you tried them out yet buddy.
i want pics

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2003 10:19 pm
by ToNkA
So, why is this setup not the prefered set up anymore?

Everyone was setting up shocks like this, now Bj and others you say it aint good?

Care to explain? Want ideas for some extras flex from mine, and thought the / \ set up would be good.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2003 10:36 pm
by bubs
i dont know why tonka - i think it works :?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2003 10:39 pm
by bubs
i have no flex - i am sure someone else could answer yr q

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 1:25 pm
by POS
The main reason why people are not setting shocks up like that anymore is simply the fact that the shock does not work to its full potential.

A Shock is designed to work vertical or as close as possible to vertical.

By setting the shocks up like this / \ it has an effect on the bump and rebound of the shock!

Also they were setting them up in that fashion so the shock would not limit droop! With some trail and error you should be able to get full stroke out of your shocks without effecting wheel travel and still run them pretty close to vertical.

For those of you that have seen the rear end of my rig realise there is no lack of wheel travel and my shocks are sitting near vertical!!!

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 1:37 pm
by ToNkA
Ok to add.


I have the standard hilux shock set up, one facing forwards, one facing the rear.

What should I do to gain the full droop/flex potential from my springs.
At the moment the shocks max out, just get longer shocks? Or re position?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 1:44 pm
by POS
Just get longer shocks!

By setting them up like this / \ would probly get you about 1 or 2 more inches of travel, by getting rancho's you will get about 5 or 6 inches more out of the shock but you probly won't get that out of your springs!!!

I think i saw someone on here selling them for about 145.00 each which is bloody cheap!!

You can set them up like this if you want but before you do take note of how much wheel hop you get when powering it up a hill and then do the same after tou set it up like this / \ HELLO SKIPPY!!!!!!

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:43 pm
by bj on roids
tonka and children, mount these tangential to the rotation of your diff on the x and y axis' and you will be fine!

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:46 pm
by ToNkA
Dude, tangent my arse.


Engrish please.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 4:03 pm
by Wendle
ToNkA wrote:Dude, tangent my arse.


Engrish please.


Tangent - A line, curve, or surface meeting another line, curve, or surface at a common point and sharing a common tangent line or tangent plane at that point.

Radiate an arc out from your roll axis, your shock should be at perpendicular, to a line drawn from the mid point of the axis of your shockback to a chord running through the centre of the arc you drew. This chord is also the diameter if you complete the arc, making a circle.

10-15deg is about what it will be. Look at the back of a GQ/GU

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 5:02 pm
by bj on roids
wendle, i must again applaud you for bringing sense to my otherwise, complex and confusing post.

Thank you for explaining that to my dimwitted friends :lol:

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:39 pm
by bubs
i knew that i would not have as nice a ride as i did b4 but - for my sakes a 9012 would not give me full up travel on a 4 runner in anywhere near stock locaton

so i opted for this and like a lot of things it is a compramise - watch my rig after i hit a speed bump :shock:

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 10:21 pm
by ToNkA
So what to do with mine is the question now.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:36 am
by Wendle
run them inwards *slightly* to keep them away from the chassis rails and make up a crossmember to sit above the chassis rails to replace the stock one. This will make up the length without tilting the shocks right in. Should be heaps of space to do this with the body lift...

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:48 am
by ToNkA
got ya.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:58 am
by Wendle
closest example I could find..

Image

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 6:23 pm
by POS
BINGO!!!!

(Damn i will have those Shocks :shock: :shock: )

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:04 pm
by robbie
bit off the topic, but you guys ever seen how a bundys shocks are setup?

one in front, and one behind the diff..

so if you get too much lift (4" or so), apparantly one of the shockers twists to much and can bend / break

how do I fix this problem?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:20 pm
by POS
Hilux are set-up the same!!

Your best bet would be to set them up like in the picture!