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Llama Land Rover
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:33 pm
by defender kev
In the August issue of Land Rover Owners International there is a pic of a Llama Land Rover does anyone no anything about these eg running gear
or who they were built for and what they were used for.
Cheers Kev
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:36 pm
by landy_man
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:45 pm
by defender kev
Thanks for the links Landy Man now i wonder why they never went into production V8,5speed,coils all round a very civalised FC.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:42 pm
by daddylonglegs
Dont take this as gospel Defender Kev but I vaguely remember that the
Lhama suffered numerous mechanical failures during testing for the British Army and LandRover had some British competition for a change in the form of a broadly similar vehicle built by Reynolds Boughton. Without a military contract there wasn't enough civilian sales potential to make production viable.
Bill.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:42 am
by Nick (in the Falklands!)
....I had the priveledge of being able to see four of the Llama prototypes at the Dunsfold Weekend last year in UK....very interesting trucks.
What Bill says is absolutely right....plus (as is typical of Rover history..), this project also suffered from horrendous 'bean-counter' interference....
(.."You can't have more money to beef this 'experiment' up......we'd have to drop 'chunder yellow' from the Disco production line for that..What do you mean..squaddies are hard on gear; the Army is only one customer, there are thousands on the high street...".)
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:07 pm
by daddylonglegs
Once again I also vaguely remember reading a critique in a British mag where the author said "only a complete idiot would present the Lhama for army evaluation fitted with a 2.5 litre engine and the LT77 gearbox. Rover did !!! "
Bill.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:22 pm
by ISUZUROVER
daddylonglegs wrote:Once again I also vaguely remember reading a critique in a British mag where the author said "only a complete idiot would present the Lhama for army evaluation fitted with a 2.5 litre engine and the LT77 gearbox. Rover did !!! "
Bill.
The article in the link says it had a 3.5V8 and LT85 - but maybe that was a later prototype?
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:31 pm
by daddylonglegs
The British armys requirement was for deisel powered vehicles and the Reynolds Boughton vehicle that won the contract was Perkins Phaser powered, so I cant see why the v8 was built. Maybe a prototype for civilian sales, but a heavy petrol powered truck would have very little appeal in Europe.
Bill.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:52 pm
by ISUZUROVER
They should have borrowed from JRA and fitted the 4BD1T and LT85, then it would have been a great truck.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:07 am
by Nick (in the Falklands!)
...I think all the Dunsfold ones are V8's, but according to Philip Bashall (who does the guided tours round the collection), the V8 was used as they had no suitable diesel powerful enough & the bean-counters would'nt hear
of a non-Rover engine being used....
He felt a 300 tdi would have done the job if correctly geared.
