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1 Litre T Case conversion

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:37 pm
by 85zook
how would this go running 31's?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:52 pm
by -Mick-
What diffs? What motor?

wt diffs and stock 1.3 it'd probably go alright. 1l case is 12% lower, 31's will be about 12% bigger than std tyres.

Sounds good then huh ;) Should go like stock :)

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:03 pm
by 85zook
1.3 NT (3.73 diffs i think?)

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:14 pm
by -Mick-
85zook wrote:1.3 NT (3.73 diffs i think?)


regardless mate the difference in tyres and gearing should be nearly the same, ie it'll go like it does now. What you lose to the tyres you'll make up with the transfer ;)

Aerodynamics will be a bit worse at speed though :)

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:35 pm
by zookjedi
85zook i would have thought your r/p would be 3.9?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:42 pm
by christover1
stressed wrote:85zook i would have thought your r/p would be 3.9?


it probably is, if its standard...
I have a 1.3 motor driving 1.o litre t-case and diffs (4.11) ..it pulls 31's easily, so yours should be fine, christover

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:48 pm
by muppet_man67
-Mick- wrote:What diffs? What motor?

wt diffs and stock 1.3 it'd probably go alright. 1l case is 12% lower, 31's will be about 12% bigger than std tyres.

Sounds good then huh ;) Should go like stock :)

I think you would find that 31s are more then 12 percent bigger. my 29s with very little tread are 10% bigger according to the speedo. standard tyres are 26" I think. so a 31 with 2 1/2" bigger should bring total to increase to 5 inches. 26/5 x 100 = 19.23%

can anyone verify the high low percentages of the 1 liter case? Some people say its 12 percent reduction for high and low range and others say its 12% high and 30% low.

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:44 pm
by christover1
muppet_man67 wrote:
-Mick- wrote:What diffs? What motor?

wt diffs and stock 1.3 it'd probably go alright. 1l case is 12% lower, 31's will be about 12% bigger than std tyres.

Sounds good then huh ;) Should go like stock :)

I think you would find that 31s are more then 12 percent bigger. my 29s with very little tread are 10% bigger according to the speedo. standard tyres are 26" I think. so a 31 with 2 1/2" bigger should bring total to increase to 5 inches. 26/5 x 100 = 19.23%

can anyone verify the high low percentages of the 1 liter case? Some people say its 12 percent reduction for high and low range and others say its 12% high and 30% low.


It depends on what your ratios are to start with...coily ratios may not be the same as wt sierra etc.. 12% lower on hi and lo is in reference to a standard 1.3 sierra t-case..maybe the coily has a higher low range than the Sierra???. just a guess.

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:24 am
by trialjimny
muppet_man67 wrote:can anyone verify the high low percentages of the 1 liter case? Some people say its 12 percent reduction for high and low range and others say its 12% high and 30% low.


read the last part of this

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=25409

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:01 pm
by 85zook
is it a straight bolt in to the 1.3 zook?

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:17 pm
by muppet_man67
christover1 wrote:
It depends on what your ratios are to start with...coily ratios may not be the same as wt sierra etc.. 12% lower on hi and lo is in reference to a standard 1.3 sierra t-case..maybe the coily has a higher low range than the Sierra???. just a guess.


Gwagonsteve I think you told me about the 30% lowrage reduction is it only when converting from coilly transfer cases? In which case would a normal 1.3 transfer case also result in a reduction.

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:33 pm
by trialjimny
2.511/2.123=1,1827
=)
a 410 t-case on a coily sierra/samurai gives 18,2% more reduction in low.
swapping the t/case is not a bolt in job and it is very likely that will cause a lot of vibes.at least this is what i found when i tried to put it on my jimny.

a 410 t/case on a WT sierra is bolt in, you only need to remove the handbrake drum from the 410 t/case and, in some cases, swap the flanges. it is only 10,7% more reduction in 4L though.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:33 am
by muppet_man67
thanks. I know a person who has done the conversion on a coilly and he says that apart from it being noisier there wernt any other side effects.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:34 am
by muppet_man67
thanks. I know a person who has done the conversion on a coilly and all he said about it was that its a bit noisier.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:31 pm
by 85zook
probably noisier because it is gear driven instead of chain. What is involved to swap em over? Do mounts need to be changed? Do the shafts bolt up ok?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:34 pm
by muppet_man67
whats involved in swapping is different on coillys because the coilly transfer case is shorter so I would need prop shaft and jack shafts off a 1 liter. I dont know about bolt patterns though.