Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Looks like Trailtough has a Hilux coil SAS kit in the works for the Vitara according to a couple of posts on http://zukiworld.com/

" Call Brent at Trailtough, he has a kit almost done if not done for doing just that. It has everything you need to accomplish the Toykick SAS coil swap. He told me that there is minimal welding that needs to be done. The spring pads for the leaf springs that are on the stock Toy axles are the centering point for the control arm mounts on the axle. You bolt the mounts to the housing, then you weld them on. The rest is a bolt on to the truck. The kit comes with steering, shocks & mounts, brake hoses, I think it might even come with drivelines, not sure about that one, all the control arms & mounts, coils & buckets, might be more, can't remember right now it's been a while since that conversation came up. You'd have to call him on the price, keep in mind that it is a bolt on kit that is very complete. "

" I have seen Trailtoughs SAS Kick it is a sweet setup. It sit on 35s with no body lift and they can lift the rear tire 3ft off the ground. Also when the tire is stuffed in the wheel well there is an even 3/8 of and in between the tire and the fender all the wat around. Last time I talked with Brent they where in the process of blueprinting it. It looks pretty trick "

At least they haven't released a test rig like some one else, got every ones hopes with a review on a major zook site and then not told the potential buyers when the farking thing will be available !! You think they would at least have the decency to say weather they "will" or "will not" be releasing the kit for sale.

I hope T/Ts kit don't end up the same !

Shane

good to see they're developing one as well, but i wont be holding my breath for it

antt wrote:good to see they're developing one as well, but i wont be holding my breath for it

I am willing to make a kit for this but no one wants to be a test dummy.
SAM

i'm willing, but my wallet isn't

Test dummy and long distance make it hard.

overkill, how cheap can you make the axel that you had on your buggy if you could suround a kit around that i'd buy it if it was a resonable price.

Matt

p.s. could you have a look at http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=25488 and tell me if you think you could make it?

antt wrote:i'm willing, but my wallet isn't

ditto

twinnie wrote:overkill, how cheap can you make the axel that you had on your buggy if you could suround a kit around that i'd buy it if it was a resonable price.

Matt

p.s. could you have a look at http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=25488 and tell me if you think you could make it?

The price of making the front diff I guess is the killer for doing the SAS conversion at tthe moment.
I am looking into a way to make the diff a lot cheaper. A Hilux diff is the next option but they aren't wide enough. Also the ratio isn'available in the yota range. The other option is to run lux diffs front and rear and just get some offset wheels.
Okay I will start people thinking what would they prefer coils or leaves.??


What you have drawn is possible but what are you planning to use as dampening when the air bag is deflated??
SAM

Leaves would be cheaper yes?

but coils would be nice

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:

twinnie wrote:overkill, how cheap can you make the axel that you had on your buggy if you could suround a kit around that i'd buy it if it was a resonable price.

Matt

p.s. could you have a look at http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=25488 and tell me if you think you could make it?

The price of making the front diff I guess is the killer for doing the SAS conversion at tthe moment.
I am looking into a way to make the diff a lot cheaper. A Hilux diff is the next option but they aren't wide enough. Also the ratio isn'available in the yota range. The other option is to run lux diffs front and rear and just get some offset wheels.
Okay I will start people thinking what would they prefer coils or leaves.??


What you have drawn is possible but what are you planning to use as dampening when the air bag is deflated??
SAM

can u make the suzanna wider then u had under the buggy? id ont think u can?

cos my toy diff is bout 2inches wider then it

can u make the suzanna wider then u had under the buggy? id ont think u can?

cos my toy diff is bout 2inches wider then it [/quote]


Yes we can make it wider and I don't think your lux axle will be wider.
SAM

I know it would cost more but I wouldn't really be interested in SAS unless it was coils. I like my IFS and what I really want is a CV solution. Maybe something using Porsche 930 CV's and a slip spline in between Now there's a product for Vitara owners.

Found out the Trailtough kit won't be out till the new year. Not even supposed to be public knowledge yet.

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:

redzook wrote:can u make the suzanna wider then u had under the buggy? id ont think u can?

cos my toy diff is bout 2inches wider then it

Yes we can make it wider and I don't think your lux axle will be wider.
SAM

measured it the other day the lux was wider
wms to wms

and gqs are even wider

redzook wrote:

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:

redzook wrote:can u make the suzanna wider then u had under the buggy? id ont think u can?

cos my toy diff is bout 2inches wider then it

Yes we can make it wider and I don't think your lux axle will be wider.
SAM

measured it the other day the lux was wider
wms to wms

Yeah due to the rim offset. Check out the vitara rear wheelbase with it's +ve offset rims.... the hilux has -ve offset.

Beastmavster wrote:

redzook wrote:

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:

redzook wrote:can u make the suzanna wider then u had under the buggy? id ont think u can?

cos my toy diff is bout 2inches wider then it

Yes we can make it wider and I don't think your lux axle will be wider.
SAM

measured it the other day the lux was wider
wms to wms

Yeah due to the rim offset. Check out the vitara rear wheelbase with it's +ve offset rims.... the hilux has -ve offset.

nothin to do with vitara stuff

plus i said wms(wheel mountin surface) to wms nothing to do with rims

cj wrote:I know it would cost more but I wouldn't really be interested in SAS unless it was coils. I like my IFS and what I really want is a CV solution. Maybe something using Porsche 930 CV's and a slip spline in between Now there's a product for Vitara owners.

Has anyone really looked into this?

redzook wrote:

Beastmavster wrote:

redzook wrote:

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:

redzook wrote:can u make the suzanna wider then u had under the buggy? id ont think u can?

cos my toy diff is bout 2inches wider then it

Yes we can make it wider and I don't think your lux axle will be wider.
SAM

measured it the other day the lux was wider
wms to wms

Yeah due to the rim offset. Check out the vitara rear wheelbase with it's +ve offset rims.... the hilux has -ve offset.

nothin to do with vitara stuff

plus i said wms(wheel mountin surface) to wms nothing to do with rims

the suzana is apparently narrower than a vitara rear by 1 inch

sorry to break it to ya tim, but a hilux diff is narrower than a vit diff

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:

twinnie wrote:overkill, how cheap can you make the axel that you had on your buggy if you could suround a kit around that i'd buy it if it was a resonable price.

Matt

p.s. could you have a look at http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=25488 and tell me if you think you could make it?

The price of making the front diff I guess is the killer for doing the SAS conversion at tthe moment.
I am looking into a way to make the diff a lot cheaper. A Hilux diff is the next option but they aren't wide enough. Also the ratio isn'available in the yota range. The other option is to run lux diffs front and rear and just get some offset wheels.
Okay I will start people thinking what would they prefer coils or leaves.??


What you have drawn is possible but what are you planning to use as dampening when the air bag is deflated??
SAM

coils are the only way to go

antt wrote:

redzook wrote:

Beastmavster wrote:

redzook wrote:

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:

redzook wrote:can u make the suzanna wider then u had under the buggy? id ont think u can?

cos my toy diff is bout 2inches wider then it

Yes we can make it wider and I don't think your lux axle will be wider.
SAM

measured it the other day the lux was wider
wms to wms

Yeah due to the rim offset. Check out the vitara rear wheelbase with it's +ve offset rims.... the hilux has -ve offset.

nothin to do with vitara stuff

plus i said wms(wheel mountin surface) to wms nothing to do with rims

the suzana is apparently narrower than a vitara rear by 1 inch

sorry to break it to ya tim, but a hilux diff is narrower than a vit diff

i know a vit is wider but my front diff is wider then the suzana under the buggy
i dont give a shit if the suzana is APPARENTLY narrower then the vit diff

i measured the toy V's suzana the other day (steve[owner of the buggy] lives just down the road) and the TOY WAS WIDER

redzook wrote:

antt wrote:

redzook wrote:

Beastmavster wrote:

redzook wrote:

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:

redzook wrote:can u make the suzanna wider then u had under the buggy? id ont think u can?

cos my toy diff is bout 2inches wider then it

Yes we can make it wider and I don't think your lux axle will be wider.
SAM

measured it the other day the lux was wider
wms to wms

Yeah due to the rim offset. Check out the vitara rear wheelbase with it's +ve offset rims.... the hilux has -ve offset.

nothin to do with vitara stuff

plus i said wms(wheel mountin surface) to wms nothing to do with rims

the suzana is apparently narrower than a vitara rear by 1 inch

sorry to break it to ya tim, but a hilux diff is narrower than a vit diff

i know a vit is wider but my front diff is wider then the suzana under the buggy
i dont give a shit if the suzana is APPARENTLY narrower then the vit diff

i measured the toy V's suzana the other day (steve[owner of the buggy] lives just down the road) and the TOY WAS WIDER

not apparantly......sam k told me it is 1inch narrower than a vitara rear when i was looking at buying it

whats the outside edge to outside edge of your tires tim? i'll meaure mine with the mongrels on...........not for a pissing contest, just for curiosity

ill measure wms to wms

rim to rim isnt very even

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:

antt wrote:good to see they're developing one as well, but i wont be holding my breath for it

I am willing to make a kit for this but no one wants to be a test dummy.
SAM

Vit will be there about 7pm, Sam

too late uphiir, he's setting up the kit on an x90