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Next bit to bend?
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:07 pm
by CJ Burns Esq
OK, so I jumped a large sand dune and bent the diff. Nissan patrol LWB landed full on the front passenger wheel at about 70-80kph from a fair height.
Had the diff taken out and straightened by a professional, but it appears that the front passenger wheel is back about 20mm closer to the passenger door/mudflap.
The mudflap is not pushed forward so it looks like something else is bent.
I don't think the body slid forward on the mounts.
Any hints on what bends next and some clues on where to measure etc.
CJ
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:22 pm
by mkpatrol
What connects the diff to the chassis?
Control arms of course?
Check them they may be bent

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:22 pm
by Wendle
do you mean that it is 20mm closer than the other side? or are both sides 20mm back?
check the radius arm mount on the chassis hasn't been obliterated. even if the bushing has completely collapsed, that alone would get you close to 20mm. it would clunk and bang and carry on when driving if it is that though.
the radius arm mounts on the axle housing were all still in good nick when it came out?
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:23 pm
by mkpatrol
Whats news Wendle? Got your vid, not bad.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:28 pm
by CJ Burns Esq
Front passenger is closer than drivers side wheel.
The radius arms appear straight with a straight edge. No apparent clunking under the car. RAdius arm mounting plate appears to be OK as do bushes.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:30 pm
by Wendle
hhmmmm. check each chassis rail between the coil bucket and the radius arm mount. there will be a few little ripples due to the bending proccess when it is made, just check to see if there is any massive deflections.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:01 pm
by Robbo
Go get a wheel alighnment that will show where the problem is, we could sit here guessing all day but you need proper meassurments. Does it drive as per normal or is it a bit strange?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:20 pm
by Wendle
Robbo wrote:Go get a wheel alighnment that will show where the problem is, we could sit here guessing all day but you need proper meassurments. Does it drive as per normal or is it a bit strange?

20mm is a lot. somehting will be visibly wrong, it may not be something that a wheel alignment (which is really only castor, camber and toe) will show up anyway.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:45 pm
by ludacris
When cars are built there not built perfect. If it drives as good as it did before i would not worry about it. You most likly did not measure it before the mishap so if you cannot spot any visible damage it is just normal.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:50 pm
by beretta
Or...you could just go do the same thing and land on the other wheel and then they'd match!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:59 pm
by Cheezy4x4
When I do A frame rears and 5 link fronts (every day) we measure everthing B4 we start and havnt had a rig perfect yet. Thats Nissan, Toyotas, RR, Jeep ect. We measured a MK front not so long ago and it was 35mm out of square from factory. When we set it up I am happy when it is + or - 1mm out of square but factory is another thing. As for getting a housing straightened (we never do it) as we have found it weakens the housing (we always go for a new housing). A dead give away that the housing is bent is oil leaking from the nuckles as if it is bent the axle will be running out of roung through the axle seal causing diff oil to run into the diff nuckle and drain out of the wiper seal.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:26 am
by Robbo
Spot on cheezy throw the housing to the shit house. Also wendle a wheel alighnment done properly will tell you which wheel is out of place, it may be that the opposite side is forward now not the other way around. I know a guy that can tell on his machine weather your chassis is bent or axle housing or just an axle.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:41 am
by bazzle
With the steering wheel where it usually is when driving straight ahead, measure from middle edge of front rim to same spot on rear rim. Repeat on other side to see if a diffference
Bazzle
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:48 pm
by CJ Burns Esq
About to do the measurements and will post answers shortly.
I have got a funny feeling the body may have slid forward on the mounts a bit.
I'll measure up first and see what I have got and I may well loosen the body mounts and reverse then brake and see if it sits up square provided the wheel to wheel measure ments are faily close.
CJ
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:52 pm
by Camshaft1
[quote="berett"]Or...you could just go do the same thing and land on the other wheel and then they'd match!!!

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that would have to be the cheapest option here fellas.........
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:13 pm
by CJ Burns Esq
I bloody near sh@t myself last time let alone do it again! Mind you it elicited several comments, the highlight being; "That has to be the most impressive, and dumbest, thing I have ever seen." In the video leading up to the jump was a comment from one of the girls saying; "Do you think he'll get air?" Apparently I got about 6' under the wheels. As soon as I find a way to download the video I'll set up a link somewhere for it.
CJ
diffs
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:18 pm
by embryo
is it common to bent diff without really jumping the vehicle?
Re: diffs
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:12 pm
by Rainbow Warrior
embryo wrote:is it common to bent diff without really jumping the vehicle?
No but it is common to bend a Patrol diff if it is jumped.