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G-day all, Me a potential looker at further developing an interests in Suzuki sierra of the yr of (95) models. Me someone who wants a vehicle that is capable off moderate off roading( This is common tracks that lets say don't need lockers) but is also good for sand, mud and touring.

at this stage I am not sure what mods to in the future perform. Personally I want to run 33's (find these offer a good size but wide track). In terms of suspension these are all question marks ??. 2 suspension lift, 2 inch shackle and perhaps a body lift to clear the 33's. This is my thoughts with no further research yet done. Yet as this is a zook forum I know some would have done these mods. And also can someone guide me in generally how zooks perform off road, toruing etc and what are good and bad thing, e.g fuel, power, braking and all that. Pics, comments all welcomed!. Also pricing of mods and essentials problems or adjustments that need to be looked at when bumping a zook up!!!

The first thing you need to do is use and abuse the search button,

Some peeps here are clearing 33's with a SPOA others are clearing 34, 35's & 36's still SPUA but with a body lift and cutting.

Where are you located??
Is the zook goind to be a daily driver??

If your planning 33's you will want a locker though (eventually)

this has to be a joke. mentioning power AND touring in a ZOOK forum!! hahahahaahahahahahahaaaa

85zook wrote:this has to be a joke. mentioning power AND touring in a ZOOK forum!! hahahahaahahahahahahaaaa

I've taken my zook to the cape and back twice


(What a way to waste my 2000th post)

I don't mean like extensive touring and yes re locker would eventually come but I want something that can go the distance! FOr example my 40 series which is bigger then like 90% of all vehcle on road won't go long distances. My question will a zook cope??

I don't mean like extensive touring and yes re locker would eventually come but I want something that can go the distance! FOr example my 40 series which is bigger then like 90% of all vehcle on road won't go long distances. My question will a zook cope??

bigsteve wrote:I've taken my zook to the cape and back twice

Cape Patterson dosn't count Steve
not even Cape Otway.
Peter.

droopypete wrote:

bigsteve wrote:I've taken my zook to the cape and back twice

Cape Patterson dosn't count Steve
not even Cape Otway.
Peter.

I was talking about my superman cape at the burgundy st fancy dress shop

2HI4U wrote:G-day all, Me a potential looker at further developing an interests in Suzuki sierra of the yr of (95) models. Me someone who wants a vehicle that is capable off moderate off roading( This is common tracks that lets say don't need lockers) but is also good for sand, mud and touring.

at this stage I am not sure what mods to in the future perform. Personally I want to run 33's (find these offer a good size but wide track). In terms of suspension these are all question marks ??. 2 suspension lift, 2 inch shackle and perhaps a body lift to clear the 33's. This is my thoughts with no further research yet done. Yet as this is a zook forum I know some would have done these mods. And also can someone guide me in generally how zooks perform off road, toruing etc and what are good and bad thing, e.g fuel, power, braking and all that. Pics, comments all welcomed!. Also pricing of mods and essentials problems or adjustments that need to be looked at when bumping a zook up!!!

BUMP!!

yeah since im losing my license for a few years, i'm going to sell the expensive hilux and buy a cheap zook sierra (about 2 to 5 grand) and throw some 33"s on it and have a cheap little thrasher.

my questions:
(1.) Why does everyone have rockhoppers on sierras?
(2.) Will i clear 33's with 2" BL and 2" SL
(3.) Step up from my 2.8 diesel hilux, or step down?
(4.) engine conversions / power ups (turbo's, 1.6 vit engines etc)

about a $10K budget




and yes, i searched these topics too

^^ about this, i also wanna put my UHF and big stereo in it, but its going to be a soft top, and i plan on rarely putting the top on unless its pissing down with rain. is there any way to secure this stuff in? maybe like a faux panel in the glove box for the headunit with good speakers / sub in a locked box bolted down in the back. i havent seen a zook up close, so i have no idea as to the size of the boot. (its probably tiny) thanks for the input peeps.

De-lux wrote:[
yeah since im losing my license for a few years, i'm going to sell the expensive hilux and buy a cheap zook sierra (about 2 to 5 grand) and throw some 33"s on it and have a cheap little thrasher.

my questions:
(1.) Why does everyone have rockhoppers on sierras?
(2.) Will i clear 33's with 2" BL and 2" SL
(3.) Step up from my 2.8 diesel hilux, or step down?
(4.) engine conversions / power ups (turbo's, 1.6 vit engines etc)

Why does everyone put rockhoppers on Zooks?

Simply.. .changing tyres on a hilut to 33" gives about a 6-10% difference in gearing from stock (depending on what model hilux you start with). Putting 33"s on a zook is a change in tyre size of over 25% so it's a long way out of where the facrory intended the car to be.

with the smaller motor (1.3) it's too much of a change to cope with.

2" suspension and 2" body lift probably will not clear the 33"s unless you're prepared to alter the panelwork - cutting and bashing. Not a great thing to do on a late model car normally.

No reason you can't jack it up a little more with extended shackles or 3" spring lift though.

Yeah you can turbo the sierra, supercharge it, Vitara carby, Vitara 16V EFI, Corolla 4agze supercharge it etc....

Is it gonna be better than your hilux? That's a tough question. Better depends on intended use and what you are prepared to trade off..... Zooks are lots of fun and cheap to play with, but being small they're not renowned for being the worlds most comfortable vehicle. If you want a weekend toy it'll be great. A daily driver with that sorta spec may not be as much fun.

yeah, it will be my daily driver. so if i get 33's i pretty much need s3's. i dont mind doing a bit of panel work as well as the 2" BL and 2" SL to fit the tyres in the arches.

i will have to look into the engine side of things, because im used to no power from my hilux, but this truck i was hoping for a bit more. any ideas about prices for a turbo kit for the 1.3L?

I dont mind about the uncomftoble ride, i just hope i can put my stereo and UHF in it safely.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... ight=build
This is my build up.

Currently I run 33 x 12.5 mtr’s, modified ome medium rears all round, 2”extended shackles, 2” body lift. S3 rock hopper.

It’s not to bad and I have no problems with speed. I drive around with a mate in a xtra cab 2.4p hilux, and he’s usually chasing me.

A few build-ups to look at are.

Bigsteve in the zook section….similar to mine (or should I say mine is similar to his)

Greg olive drap 660cc turbo’d carpark maller in the zook section

Grimbo orange handyman tool rack, in the members section

Redzook (watch the vid from puosu, speaks for it’s self) in the members section

Overkill engineering coilly converted, balino motor. No proof of it working yet though. Zook and members section

Damo bling thing. Members section

Skippy orange little bus…not sure where the info on that was

After you have read everything on these rig’s hopefully you will know a thing or two.

do you even need to go to the extent of 33's isn't it true a suzi on 31's has the same or better under diff clearance than a landcruiser on 35's.
but 33's will be cooler anyway

spamwell wrote:do you even need to go to the extent of 33's isn't it true a suzi on 31's has the same or better under diff clearance than a landcruiser on 35's.
but 33's will be cooler anyway

I suppose but my willy is small so I got big tires

i have 31"s on my lux ATM and there tiny. i want 33"s for the coolness as well as the ability. and i have a small pecker also.

does anyone know anything about the stereo idea in the soft top?

You can buy marine grade stereos that you can damn near wash in a bucket.

If you want hose out practicality it's worth considering.... I once had an "experience" with washing my car out a little too vigourously and the cd player wasn't my friend for a few days.

I guess I was lucky as I know plenty of people who have killed them completely that way.

ooh, no, i have sent my speakers / sub / amp / headunit swinning many times in my hilux, and thankfully it still works.

i was more concerned about the theft side of things. is their any way of securing down / hiding the headunit from prying eyes? i also have a good UHF to put in it too which i want to have secured.

As far as the uhf goes, see if you can make it simple to put in and take out, that way just put it in when you go 4wding.

The speakers in the back should be okay. Have a search for skippy and you will find a link that shows how to build a hard cover for a zook similar to a holden ute. This should hide the subs away from preying eye’s. Also this should give you a good centre of gravity by keeping heavy things low!

The head unit will fit in the glove box or you could by a remote stacker with the very small control’s that hide up front. I got split’s in the front foot wells, but be sure to use plastic on the back of them when installing. The tweeter is cut flush in the dash and nobody notices them.

A small amp will fit under the glove box and tucks up out of site if you attach it to the cross member, this should be used for the front splits. Rear amp will have to go under the rear cover or front seats.

After this you will then be looking for space when camping, but it’s most probably worth it if you don’t like the sound of a S3 and mudders on the road.

Damn I feel like a ricer boy now!!!!!!!!!!

A fibreglass hardtop might be cheaper than replacing your stereo gear

Comes off real quick too for posing on sunny days

I'll have a spare one soon for a swb that is surplus to my needs (I have a lwb) that I could let go very farkin cheap Like beer cheap

DeWsE wrote:
After this you will then be looking for space when camping, but it’s most probably worth it if you don’t like the sound of a S3 and mudders on the road.

Damn I feel like a ricer boy now!!!!!!!!!!

How loud is a series 3? better a ricer boy then a noodle boy, or a spagetti boy, meat and 3 veg is ok.

muppet_man67 wrote:

DeWsE wrote:
After this you will then be looking for space when camping, but it’s most probably worth it if you don’t like the sound of a S3 and mudders on the road.

Damn I feel like a ricer boy now!!!!!!!!!!

How loud is a series 3? better a ricer boy then a noodle boy, or a spagetti boy, meat and 3 veg is ok.

some times pretty load, take into consideration without carpet and stick boots everything is quite loud

muppet_man67 wrote:

DeWsE wrote:
After this you will then be looking for space when camping, but it’s most probably worth it if you don’t like the sound of a S3 and mudders on the road.

Damn I feel like a ricer boy now!!!!!!!!!!

How loud is a series 3? better a ricer boy then a noodle boy, or a spagetti boy, meat and 3 veg is ok.

i luv the sound of s3 doin its thang

nah its not that bad

interesting... :rubschin:

I like the chatter of straight cut gears also

i like the squeel of 5th low range

and the bang clash sound of the diff back lash,

and the whine of the gear box because of the lack oil,

and the clunk when putting back into two wheel drive....

ahhh


blooody zukies

sounds like my lux at present.

cant wait to get my zook.

its going to own A$$