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Removing 40 Series Front Axles - HELP - Windscreen Query

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:09 pm
by Meldge
Sorry Guys,

I have read the threads about removing CV Joints, but I am not understanding fully, due to my lack of knowledge of all parts included.

I will be out removing these tomorrow, however I had a look at them on the weekend. I undid the 6x10mm nuts on the free-wheeling hub, but it doesn't come out. It moves about 8mm outwards but that is it.

I then went about undoing as many other nuts/bolts as I could but to no avail. WHAT AM I MISSING THERE...?


Cheers,

Meldge

Also being the same model of car, does anybody have a spare/unused, 40/45 Series Windscreen Surrounds (with or without glass). I have my windscreen sitting upright and being the 73 Series, it is very tall, the 40 Series is a lot shorter and I would like to size it up for fitment.


Meldge

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:38 pm
by Meldge
I think I might have found the reason, On these Hubs (un-like the instructions i read for a hilux) there are 6 Allen Key grub screws that I need to remove.

The switch for the hubs also has WARN written on them, is this normal or are they better than standard?


Meldge

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:18 pm
by MY45
Remove the front of the hub (allen keys) then you will need to remove the cir-clip on the axel (may need circlip removers) then you should be able to follow your instructions ;)

Hope that helps

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:45 pm
by turbo4t
The CV your pulling on is bigger than the hole your pulling it through. You need to dissasemble you hub completely untill all that's on the diff is the swival housing

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:43 am
by the_smoo
you would have not removed the outer c-clip.

remove that, the free wheeling hub will slide right off.

remove the lock nut, the lock washer, the adjustment nut. These are large 54mm nuts..


The whole hub should now come off easy. watch the outer bearing doesnt pop onto the floor. There should also be a claw washer in front of the outer bearing.

Then undo all the bolts that go through the backing plate to the spindle.
Remove the backing plate. Grab a rubber mallett, tap the side of the spindle a coupla times and pull the spindle out..

axle will be sitting there covered in gumpta. rotate it so that the two flat spots are top and bottom and pull.. voila..

i only did this job on the weekend.. its easier than you think..

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:19 am
by mudtoy
We also did it on the weekend at the Alpine challenge. All of the above is correct but it also depends on whether you have disc or drum brakes as you will need to remove them to access the spindle bolts.

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:19 pm
by scotto

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:53 pm
by Meldge
Thanks guys, i figured that might have been the case, it started raining so i did not keep going...

I am heading out now, i dont have a 54mm socket, try a big screwdriver, I am not too concerned about all the parts, mainly want the centres, might keep axle ends, as going into a 60 Series diff, the rest is too short.

Thanks again, let you know how i go...


Meldge

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:05 am
by Meldge
Got them out, only took a few hours (with the flu) :lol:

There were the Allen Keyed Grub Screws that were the problem. Then when trying to break the seals on the rear axle ends i snapped a couple of the studs off, and that burred the edges, therefore i could not get the cone washers off, then had to use a smash the rest of them off.

Got there in the end, they are not LSD's, just open centres, but still good for spares, or bartering.

Thanks Again,


Meldge

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:13 am
by Shadow
Meldge wrote:Got them out, only took a few hours (with the flu) :lol:

There were the Allen Keyed Grub Screws that were the problem. Then when trying to break the seals on the rear axle ends i snapped a couple of the studs off, and that burred the edges, therefore i could not get the cone washers off, then had to use a smash the rest of them off.

Got there in the end, they are not LSD's, just open centres, but still good for spares, or bartering.

Thanks Again,


Meldge


wouldnt a whole diff be better for bartering O_O

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:05 pm
by Meldge
Possibly would but a mate is scrapping the car for me, so I just left all of the heavy shite in there.

I could use open centres as spares while having LSD rebuilt if and when they break, could even barter them for services and or parts...

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:19 pm
by scotto
[quote="Meldge"] i dont have a 54mm socket, try a big screwdriver,
Meldge[/quote

go to an exhaust shop and get an off cut big enough - so that the corners of each of the adjusting nuts just touch

mark the pipe where the corner of the nut touches with a nikko

then get your grinder out and shave notches where the corners of adjusting nuts touch so that you can actually drop the nut n between the notches and there you have a home made 54mm socket

it took me half an hour and is prob the best thing ever suggested to me to try and make as i am always in there and find it a right pain in the coite using mallet and hammer to tighten bearing nuts

or go spend 80 bucks on a pipe wrench...

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:52 pm
by Meldge
That is a good idea, I like it. I wouldn't have seen it too hard to tighten back up, unless worried about tightness, as they were extremely easy to come off.

Meldge

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:45 am
by the_smoo
i bought the "wheel bearing adjusment tool" aka BFS from don kyatts last week for 28 bucks..

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:58 am
by Pesky Pete
the_smoo wrote:i bought the "wheel bearing adjusment tool" aka BFS from don kyatts last week for 28 bucks..


Yeah I paid $15 for mine at a 4wd wrecker / parts joint.

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:13 am
by Shadow
yeh just buy (or borrow) a 54mm socket(tube spanner?)!

i got mine from the offroad fishing and camping show, $15

it didnt have a socket connection on the back, had a bar throughg the back of it, so i welded a plate and socket to the back of it so n ow i can use my old mans tension wrench on it.

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:42 am
by the_smoo
the_smoo wrote:
i bought the "wheel bearing adjusment tool" aka BFS from don kyatts last week for 28 bucks..


Yeah I paid $15 for mine at a 4wd wrecker / parts joint.


ive no doubt i could sell it on ebay to some chimp for 50 bucks :D