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G13B 96 Coily
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:35 pm
by bczook
Hi
I know this topic had been covered numerous times but i did a search and couldnt find answers to my questions
Iam after info regarding the g13b GTI conversion as iam looking into it for my 1996 coily sierra
does the gti engine use the same engine mounts?
is the standard radiator sufficient?
would i need to modify the sump?
I know the sierra gbox lines up but can i use my sierra clutch P/P or have to use the GTI Items?
also whats peoples opinions on the standard computer? is it any good i was maybe thinking of going microtech and going a DIS (distributerless Ignition)
that way i wouldnt need an angle drive to clear the firewall
i have also been told the coily sierra's use the same fuel tank as vitara
which means i would be able to use a vitara fuel pump is this correct?
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:54 pm
by RB zook
sell it before you realise they are weak.
buy a leafy and put the donk in that
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:01 pm
by 85zook
I agree.
Go the Leafy!
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:08 pm
by RB zook
85zook wrote:I agree.
Go the Leafy!
than put coils under it
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:09 am
by bczook
rbzook & 85zook honestly did you even read the post?
if so please point out were i asked for opinions on the sierra?
all i asked for was some info on the gti conversion?
as in my experience the only weak link i have had with my coily is the engine been through 2 in 16,000 Klms
anyways back to the topic
anyone with any experience with these engines care to share any info?
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:31 pm
by muppet_man67
$10 says both engines dropped their piston skirts? dont quote me apparently the gti engine is more revvy and not as ideal for off road.
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:16 am
by bczook
1st engine - dropped piston skirt #3
2nd engine - melted top of piston #3
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:11 am
by 85zook
rbzook & 85zook honestly did you even read the post?
if so please point out were i asked for opinions on the sierra?
all i asked for was some info on the gti conversion?
Yes we obviously did read the post as RBzook said:
sell it before you realise they are weak.
buy a leafy and put the donk in that
And I agreed with him and said:
I agree. Go the Leafy!
We were ony ystating that the coily's suspension set up is weak and the preferable option would be to put the G13B in a leafy as they are a better setup in the bush. Not a good way to start on the forum buddy!
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:28 am
by bczook
We were ony ystating that the coily's suspension set up is weak and the preferable option would be to put the G13B in a leafy as they are a better setup in the bush. Not a good way to start on the forum buddy!
the preferable option for who?? not me cause i dont own a leafy i own a coily
i only asked for info on putting the g13b in a coily thats it why even reply to the topic if you dont have any helpful or relivent information.
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:04 pm
by 85zook
the most helpful information one could give to a coily owner considering a G13B swap is either:
DONT DO IT!! The coily isnt strong enough!
OR......
Buy a leafy and do it with that!
Problem solved!
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:16 pm
by bruce
Sounds like those to have some type of chat room love thing going on!!!! (i think thay might love there girls car just a bit to much)
I agree with you if you give information on the question then shut le hell up. And yes thay are a very revvy and you loose some low down power.
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:23 pm
by mud4b
ILL HELP......
THE VIT FUEL PUMP DOES FIT INTO THE COILY TANK,BUT THE TANKS ARE NOT THE SAME...
AS FOR THE GTI ILL CHECK THAT OUT FOR YOU ON MONDAY.....
STD ECU IS VERY GOOD AND WELL TUNED BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS BENIFIT FROM AFTERMAKET....
PUT A CULTIS THROTTLE BODY ON IT AND GET SOME MORE HORSIES...
AND COILYS ARNT BAD......THEY HAVE THERE OWN PROBLEMS AS DO THE LEAFYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:20 am
by bczook
finally some help thanks mud4b
i have sourced a cultus frontcut
also i have found a good site which covers the conversion process
for anybody else looking to do the conversion
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7l0bw/mywe ... ersion.htm
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:53 pm
by -Mick-
Great link
How much did the front cut cost and wtf is a cultus
Be sure to document your install here so we can all.... um...... see it
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:15 pm
by 85zook
as far as im aware the Suzuki Cultus is the same as the Baleno
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:39 pm
by bczook
$1400 for cultus front cut done 33,000 Klms
Cultus G13B
better cams
extractors
better inlet manifold
higher compression 11:1 aus gti 10:1
more powerful engine
there were swifts and baleno's under the cultus name but the
gti version was the only one with the G13B DOHC Engine
the swift versions (Suzuki Cultus) were fwd and 4wd
had the G10 and the G13B DOHC
the baleno versions (Suzuki Cultus Crescent)
had the G13B SOHC, G15A, G16B and the J18A
i will be documenting the install as well as taking many photos
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:33 am
by lilpigzuk
Does the vitara pump work alright even if the pumps arent the same??
Im gonna do the same soon with my coiler. I run a GTi in my SJ410, which is not far off being retired. Have not broken anything drive train wise in the 410 and it gets a very hard time.
I dont see why people think the GTi is not suited to offroad, Ive never had a problem with the torque (or supposed lack of), thats on both club trips and trialling it
.