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ok, heres the deal, GQ patrol, 5speed diesel gearbox, 5ltr injected holden motor, motor was turning over by hand perfect on engine stand, put it in the car (usin marks kit) and now that its in it wont turn over by hand or by starter motor no more :( any ideas????????????????

in gear??

Slayer wrote:in gear??

nah tried that

I have a good hint as to wat it is
Phone call made

your engine is seized
Well it is a shitty holden part

Big Red Toy wrote:your engine is seized
Well it is a shitty holden part

when i said it turned over fine on the stand im talking about not even a week ago, how do you seize a motor by not doing anything??? lol

is it just rebuilt?

how about rocking the car in 4th?

nah is a 2nd hand motor with warranty etc, only 2 things i can think of
its jammed up somewhere in the bellhousing ?? (jeff said this is common)
or 2, we had to support the engine for a little bit while swapping cranes over etc etc and to do it we put a block of wood between the chassis and under the front pulley/sump on the motor, sump aint bent but could we have bent the crank????

Crank wont be bent.
Check fuel hasnt run into bores and locked it.
Remove plugs and try again.
Or pressure on thrust from spigot jamming.

Bazzle

Ryan wrote:when i said it turned over fine on the stand im talking about not even a week ago, how do you seize a motor by not doing anything??? lol

It could have bent a valve - before you removed it, and just bad timing.

id do what bazzle said, remove plugs and try

Ryan wrote:

Big Red Toy wrote:your engine is seized
Well it is a shitty holden part

when i said it turned over fine on the stand im talking about not even a week ago, how do you seize a motor by not doing anything??? lol

i was joking, removing plugs sounds like the go

I would first remove the starter and try and turn it over by hand,just incase the starter is fouling.If that is ok,then I would loosen the bellhousing bolts and move the gearbox back a little bit and then try and turn the engine over.

1. Flat battery
2.Sounds like its locked in gear

Did you have a pin locating the flywheel to the engine block when you were tightening the flywheel to crankshaft bolts?? Have you left that in??

Try being a bit more specific.....will the crankshaft move at all??..does it feel like a mechanical stop to the movement if it does move, or is it a progressive bind-up??...Can you turn the rear driveshaft flange of the tranny with the car in neutral (to exclude probs with the tranny)??.. can you turn the engine over with the clutch pedal depressed??

bout to go move box out of the way and see what i come up with so ill tell more tonight, but basically the engine wont turn over at all, not even with a large socket on the front pulley, not even a mm its like its locked solid, will let you know what i find when its apart

CHeers

Ryan

Ryan wrote:bout to go move box out of the way and see what i come up with so ill tell more tonight, but basically the engine wont turn over at all, not even with a large socket on the front pulley, not even a mm its like its locked solid,

Have you removed the spark plugs yet?

hehe umm, after about 6 beers and many cigarettes, stared at it for a bit now that i got the motor hangin out of the way and i noticed something, the flywheel bolts are too long, and are hitting the back of the block......

Ryan wrote:hehe umm, after about 6 beers and many cigarettes, stared at it for a bit now that i got the motor hangin out of the way and i noticed something, the flywheel bolts are too long, and are hitting the back of the block......

LOL

I guess you sort of got your wish... not really an EASY fix but at least not an expensive one!

better than a bent crank anyway

Ryan wrote:better than a bent crank anyway

yes, yes it is.