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I've done a bit of a search but there's SFA on this site about them What did they come in What are the specs on em

How hard is an install into a sierra I assume tricky because I've never heard of one

I realise the CA18 would be better but any motor up to 1600 is a 'pre approved' swap up here so is easy. Queensland beautiful one day, confusing mod laws the next

Just thinkin thanks

-Mick- wrote:I've done a bit of a search but there's SFA on this site about them What did they come in What are the specs on em

How hard is an install into a sierra I assume tricky because I've never heard of one

I realise the CA18 would be better but any motor up to 1600 is a 'pre approved' swap up here so is easy. Queensland beautiful one day, confusing mod laws the next

Just thinkin thanks

are they not similar to the sr20? I asking, not telling??? if so, there is heaps on here about them? christover

CA 16 and CA 18 are the same series engine... just CA18 is obviously bigger. CA 16 is also really cheap... a few hundred should buy a NA engine only replacement.....

The CA16 is not a huge balltearer, unless you compare it to a Zook motor......



From memory power is in the mid 80kw range depending on version... so about the same as a 2.4 Hilux and better than an EFI 1.6 Vitara for a much cheaper $$$ - so overall not a bad option and well worth a few extra hassles to install.

If you could blow it afterwards it'd be great... but QLD transport stop that sort of fun too :(

got no info for ya, but will be interested in any info ya find out, especially if ya do it!!

CA16/18 are a different generation of engine to the SR20.... both have their good and bad points... although the good far outweighs the bad for both engines.

SR20 has more ultimate potential - but that's far beyond the scope of a 4wd application.... Having said that the difference in price between CA18 and SR20 would easily pay for more improvements for the CA18 to stay in fornt until the ridiculously large ricer wallet comes into play.

Thanks for the info mavster But does anyone know what is needed to adapt one to the sierra driveline

Obviously no adaptors available

if you need ca16/18 info you should talk to guys who are into dato 1200
ie www.datsun1200.com
they know heas about ca's

zukin4life wrote:if you need ca16/18 info you should talk to guys who are into dato 1200
ie www.datsun1200.com
they know heas about ca's

Thanks man

-Mick- wrote:Thanks for the info mavster But does anyone know what is needed to adapt one to the sierra driveline

Obviously no adaptors available

Just use the datto engine & box? See if you can get an auto in there even.

Damo wrote:

-Mick- wrote:Thanks for the info mavster But does anyone know what is needed to adapt one to the sierra driveline

Obviously no adaptors available

Just use the datto engine & box? See if you can get an auto in there even.

Would love too Need measurements if anyone has em. The cost makes it very attractive BUT how to mate the datto auto to sierra transfer How did the bloke with the sr20 do it

Datto autos in these are a 4 speed Automatic so would need all the bits for that including the factory EFI. As a consideration here size is gonna be a non issue with the turbo 1800 fitting into a 1200 datto engine bay.

The only normal issue for size in dattos is the transmission tunnel to cope with the 5 speed CA18DET box and the clearance for the intake manifold versus brake booster location. Using an earlier model Corolla remote mounted booster fixes this.

With a CA16 both should be smaller so less likely to cause issues.

Go down to your nearest Jap wrecker with a tape measure... they'll let you measure it up or they can't shift certain motors... the CA16 is a bit like that for them.

Beastmavster wrote:Datto autos in these are a 4 speed Automatic so would need all the bits for that including the factory EFI. As a consideration here size is gonna be a non issue with the turbo 1800 fitting into a 1200 datto engine bay.

The only normal issue for size in dattos is the transmission tunnel to cope with the 5 speed CA18DET box and the clearance for the intake manifold versus brake booster location. Using an earlier model Corolla remote mounted booster fixes this.

With a CA16 both should be smaller so less likely to cause issues.

Go down to your nearest Jap wrecker with a tape measure... they'll let you measure it up or they can't shift certain motors... the CA16 is a bit like that for them.

Cool thanks The size of the 5 speed wouldn't be an issue with the auto box Still how to adapt to zook transfer

Ohh.... one thing I forgot last night finding a RWD CA16 is gonna be a struggle so you may need to use the CA18 RWD transmission.

Happy hunting.

-Mick- wrote: The cost makes it very attractive BUT how to mate the datto auto to sierra transfer How did the bloke with the sr20 do it

He used a CV joint with Sierra bit welded to one end, and nissan bit to the other.....In his swb sierra he used a hybrid 5speed front sr20, rear half was skyline..In his Lwb he is using auto, with a proper jack shaft... christover

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-Mick- wrote:
Cool thanks The size of the 5 speed wouldn't be an issue with the auto box Still how to adapt to zook transfer

Same as 99% of other Sierra conversions. Custom jack shaft. Easy.

mmmm I'm gonna get some prices on halfcuts tomorrow will let y'all know how it goes

Last I knew it may be worth getting a quote from EKW or one of the bigger wreckers in Sydney... they can get transport done pretty cheap it may work out way less than buying in brissy.

Zoom! car magazine is a good spot to look for info and prices on this sorta stuff.

hello mick hows it going

the ca16de fwd was fitterd to the 1987 nissan exa coupe
85kw @ 6400 rpm
143nm @ 4800 rpm

ca18de fwd 1988-91 nissan exa coupe 1809cc
93kw @ 6400 rpm
156nm @ 4800 rpm

ca20de pintara rwd 1986-91 1974cc
83kw @ 5200 rpm
168nm @ 4000 rpm

As stated about the same power as a Hilux 2.4 petrol....

The purposed of buying a CA16 only was the ease of approval in QLD for 1600 cc or less... nice to know what the 1.8's do though.

I had all that info here somewhere

daryl wrote:hello mick hows it going

the ca16de fwd was fitterd to the 1987 nissan exa coupe
85kw @ 6400 rpm
143nm @ 4800 rpm

ca18de fwd 1988-91 nissan exa coupe 1809cc
93kw @ 6400 rpm
156nm @ 4800 rpm

ca20de pintara rwd 1986-91 1974cc
83kw @ 5200 rpm
168nm @ 4000 rpm

Cool thanks daryl Mavster redeem yourself and tell me how much torque the vit 1.6 puts out

Injected

Max. output: 78.1 PS (77.0 bhp) (57.4 kW)@5350 rpm
Max. torque: 126.0 Nm (93 lbft) (12.8 kgm)@3100 rpm

Carby 8V

Max. output: 76 PS (75.0 bhp) (55.9 kW)@5250 rpm
Max. torque: 123.0 Nm (91 lbft) (12.5 kgm)@3100 rpm

16V Injected

Max. output: 97.3 PS (96.0 bhp) (71.6 kW)@5600 rpm
Max. torque: 132.4 Nm (98 lbft) (13.5 kgm)@4000 rpm

Guess that's a hands down victory to the CA16.....

Just have to find a CA18 gearbox or get a custom bellhousing made so you can use the CA16 fwd with your sierra box

Beastmavster wrote:Guess that's a hands down victory to the CA16.....

Just have to find a CA18 gearbox or get a custom bellhousing made so you can use the CA16 fwd with your sierra box

Cheers Doing the ring around tomorrow morning so I'll post some prices

Then we can all pad our post counts a bit more

series 3 bluebird 1980's type came out with a CA18.

for the g/box you could use the bell housing of the bluebird and bolt it up to a R30 skyline box or stanza 5 speed.

but come to think of it i think the CA series motors have the same bolt pattern as the L series motors, so you wouldn't need to change bell housings so just use the skyline box. (i'm 90% sure on this)

stu

no tech here, but are you ever gonna get that thing wheeling mj

antt wrote:no tech here, but are you ever gonna get that thing wheeling mj

Nah, he will never wheel again. Finally he's seen the power of the Dark Side.


Hey Grimbo


Hey -Mick-, who's your faaaather



Fark I crack me up

you're a bad influence on him damo , just cause you'll never wheel again doesn't mean ya have to drag others into your web-wheeling cult

antt wrote:you're a bad influence on him damo , just cause you'll never wheel again doesn't mean ya have to drag others into your web-wheeling cult

You dont understand the power of the dark side