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Turbo diesel`s do they really need mufflers
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:26 pm
by stool
HI ALL just thinking of removing the muffler from my 3" exhaust anyone done it and got away with it. Ive got patrol 2.8 and its not that loud with a straight through turbo muffler just after more noise and NM`s
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:30 pm
by dow50r
Too noisy brother...the boys will follow you everywhere...putting a straight through hotdog in there will fix that problem though!
Andrew
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:43 pm
by Daisy
hrmmm
thought the turbo acted as a muffler?
I got a mate runnin a DTS kit without a muffler and its not LOUD LOUD.. but if he puts the boot down.. u can hear it..
TOM
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:50 pm
by stool
Thank`s I was thinking that its just when the shop was fitting the exhaust I heard them moving the patrol out of the shop with only new 3" bend on the turbo that replaced the cast bend and it sounded sooooo good turbo whissling it`s arse off but no louder than those rice burners
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:58 pm
by Surfection
Definatly do it. I had straight through 2-1/4 inch pipe from turbo back on my surf and it wasn't crazy loud. The three inch diameter will flow more but i still think it'll be fine... It'll whistle very nicely.
Worst comes to worst you can always get a resonator put back in where the muffler was.
And yes GQ you're right, in a way the turbo acts as a muffler, but only by breaking down the individual pulses of the motor into more of a flowing sound.
Jeremy

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:59 pm
by high n mighty
My 2.8 turbo lux has a 2 1/2" system with a single straight thru muffler and its a lil loud.
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:17 pm
by stool
Do you think it should cost under 50bucks It`s only a foot of pipe
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm
by high n mighty
Hopefully, I used to worl for a Midas store who sold it for $65 a metre. A bit rich I think but you should get it cheap enough
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:17 pm
by I.M.P.O.S.E
Ive got a mate running straight thru on a 75 series Turbo 2H no mufflers!
Crosses across behind the tray, about 4inch pipe!
LOUD! But sounds sweet as! Ask rocknferoza!
no muffler
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:51 pm
by DR Frankenstine
i ran straight through on my lwb 3.3 td and was great, but using exactly the same exhaust on my swb it was to loud (only 2' of pipe shorter). Put in a short straight through resonator, and quitened it down just enough, and made no noticable difference to performance.
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:08 pm
by Hoonz
i had my muffler off ... it was a nice note and whislted like mad
was hell loud tho! cause it was dumped straight to the road and echo'd
now i've got a hot dog in to keep it quietish .. till i open it right up
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:13 pm
by J Top
I put a 2 1/2" straight pipe on a TD4.2 T and it was NZ legal and was not
unpleasent to drive.
Now ran the LT1 thru the same system and it sounded sweet but was cop bait so we fitted a Supa Flow muffler.
J Top
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:23 pm
by Monty
Carts of the board has turbo 2h in his 60 and his muffler fell off one day offroading and he liked the sound of it so he got a straight through part made up from a exhaust shop in castle hill industrial area for 20bucks he bloted it in and it sounds awesome, however he found it a bit loud inside so he has his muffler back in now but always has the option if he wants to unblot and throw in the straight through if hes in the mood every so often
sounds like a semi-trailor though its so nice
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:28 pm
by bad_religion_au
mate has a turboed 1hz in a 75 that's ripped the exaust off basically from the turb back, sounds quiet enough untill he opens it up under load... then it's a little roary... but at least something drowns out the simex's. don't know how much boost he runs, but gives HSV clubbies a run for the money, and outdrags 350 chev powered cruisers up hills
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:30 pm
by Macca177
ur in sutho shire so give the boys at sutherland exhaust a call.... Matthew hunt is the owner and hes pritty kewl and ive had ll my cars exhausts done there and all my mates go there too... them or menai mufflers should giva ya a good deal .. $50 i paid for a straight through end on the vn and the vk i had.
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:36 pm
by Camshaft1
I had my old MQ with SD33T. Straight thru 2/5 inch sounded pretty damn good.
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:38 pm
by hypo
i got turbs on my 2.8 lux, its got 3" pipe from back of turbo and a small turbo muffler its only bout 1.5 metres long (the exhaust that is not the muffler) and it sounds like a mack truck, its got a good sound and its louad wen i get up it. i also ran it 4 a while wif no muffler and it didnt sounds as good as it does wif the muffler.
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:00 pm
by stool
Sound`s like the best thing is to get flang`s welded each side of muffler and existing pipe than straight through pipe also with flange`s than I have both. I had a 253 dunny door with 65mm pipe and extrators done at sutho which sounded sweet and a vr dunny with 65mm and extractors done by menai mufflers which was ok for v6. Ile have a word to sutho tomoro about price
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:02 pm
by Samuel
Does a turbo diesel need a muffler?
No of course not, but any gain in hp would be marginal anyway, if anything it will just make cool wirring and hissing noises.
Do the police and RTA think you need a muffler on your turbo diesel?
I dont know, drive past one at full pace and see what they think.
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:07 pm
by stool
RTA inspector lives 3 houses up from where i park for work every day im sure ile find out as he has been spoted with tape checking head light hights and looking at my non existent swaw bares
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:27 pm
by I.M.P.O.S.E
RTA inspector lives 3 houses up from where i park for work every day im sure ile find out as he has been spoted with tape checking head light hights and looking at my non existent swaw bares
Next time get a tape out and start measuring him up to see how he likes it! If he asks you what your doin, tell him your working out what size box you will need to get for him!
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:12 am
by J Top
J Top
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:22 pm
by stool
Called in to sutho exhaust about half an hour ago the guy said nup straight out he`s not putting his arse on the line and every car must have a muffler to get rego even turbo diesels that are quiet with no muffler.
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:00 pm
by bazzle
Just fit a straight thru resonator. Removes the Boom and still sound smooth.
Bazzle
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:24 pm
by tuff80
GQ wrote:hrmmm
thought the turbo acted as a muffler?
I got a mate runnin a DTS kit without a muffler and its not LOUD LOUD.. but if he puts the boot down.. u can hear it..
TOM
If you can hear it, it must be fu(king loud!!!

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:30 pm
by stool
its only loud at 2200rpm and just off idle but I want to piss the neighbours at 6am when go to work
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:48 pm
by J Top
We had the D series Ford Turbo trucks over here with no mufflers.
I thought they came that way from the factory but it's a bit long ago to remember.
A 6 will always be quieter than a 4 through more firing pulse's.
J Top
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:17 pm
by Surfection
stool wrote:Called in to sutho exhaust about half an hour ago the guy said nup straight out he`s not putting his arse on the line and every car must have a muffler to get rego even turbo diesels that are quiet with no muffler.
Pfft, do it yourself then, or get a mate to do it.... If you can be stuffed driving all the way to my place on a weekend i'll weld it up for ya. What a crock of shit, as if he hasn't done heaps of dodgy shit on ricers by now.

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:48 pm
by Samuel
stool wrote:its only loud at 2200rpm and just off idle but I want to piss the neighbours at 6am when go to work
And you wonder why the RTA inspector keeps measuring the truck up!

muffler
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:26 pm
by eliteforce32
im with hypo i ahve no muffler and like 4 feet of pipe dumping the gases and it has nice whistle at idle and yes it fuckin loud when just over 1500rpm.....and a mate has a 79 ser. ute with denco turbo which dumps three inches passenger side door .......rumbles at 1200 rpm and scream when upen it!! but bearable in cab