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michelin tyres

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:38 pm
by CRUSHU
i am looking for some big truck tyres, around 44 - 50". i see the xml's were fitted to the f250 in the four wheeler magazine.

i also notice every other us built rig, runs the other michelin, with a boomerang tread. what are they called? what is the better mud tyre? where can i get some? thanks

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:20 pm
by Gwagensteve
The boomerang type tread is the XL (? used to remember all this nerdy stuff), and I believe this is basically a superceded tyre. I believe that they are popular inthe US because there were a large number of used ex army ones available. I think that USA 6X6 and for a while Avalance engineering had them pretty cheap.

They have less tread depth than the XML and are obviously directional.

I knew of two hiluxes that ran this type of tyre, one was running XL's, the other XS (nearly identical but optimised for snow/sand use) and they were always considered 20K carcasses - and apparently at sped you could pretty much watch the rubber coming off them.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:32 pm
by CRUSHU
what is preferable for mud use??

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:34 pm
by tracks
Give Total Tyres a call in Oakleigh, I overheard the salesman there bagging Mich. tyres saying quality has gone down hill and they are putting out a inferior product..

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:42 pm
by ISUZUROVER
CRUSHU wrote:what is preferable for mud use??


Tractor tyres

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:45 pm
by CRUSHU
ISUZUROVER wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:what is preferable for mud use??


Tractor tyres


gotta be streetable. these will be my only street legal tyres.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:49 pm
by ISUZUROVER
CRUSHU wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:what is preferable for mud use??


Tractor tyres


gotta be streetable. these will be my only street legal tyres.


How can 44-50" tyres be street legal??? - only if they are going on a unimog???

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:57 pm
by CRUSHU
ISUZUROVER wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:what is preferable for mud use??


Tractor tyres


gotta be streetable. these will be my only street legal tyres.


How can 44-50" tyres be street legal??? - only if they are going on a unimog???


being speed rated, they are legal to be on the road.
being only 15 - 18" wide, they are skinny enough, and should sit inside my flares. so that will be legal as well. my swampers are completely illegal.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:02 pm
by ISUZUROVER
CRUSHU wrote:being speed rated, they are legal to be on the road.
being only 15 - 18" wide, they are skinny enough, and should sit inside my flares. so that will be legal as well. my swampers are completely illegal.


They may be speed rated within the guards and road legal, but all that is irrelevant if they are completely illagal for the vehicle. So why bother about speed rating or within the guards, a cop would still give you a defect notice as soon as they see the truck.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:12 pm
by ISUZUROVER
But all that aside, if you want to find michelin tyres currently available new (in the US at least).

go here:

http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... lector.jsp

Select the size you would like. Then ALL POSITION, then Off-Road/Military then see if anything is available.

Hope you have deep pockets (and are sitting down) when you get a price.

XZL
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... L+%28wb%29
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... ?tread=XZL
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... L+%28wb%29
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... ?tread=XZL

XS (XML is no longer made)
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... p?tread=XS
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... p?tread=XS

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:06 am
by CRUSHU
i was hoping for ex army surplus tyres..... not new.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:19 pm
by CRUSHU
no one know where i can find some surplus tyres? probably looking for xzl, 365/85 x 20 or 395/85 x 20.

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:05 am
by turps
CRUSHU wrote:i was hoping for ex army surplus tyres..... not new.


I dont know where they are disposing of them. But the army is changing all there semi-bar tread type tyres to a different micheln tread pattern (perviaous pattern was like a very large simex JT 1). These will most likly suck on road though.

XML

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 10:55 am
by Webbie
A mate is getting a set of these new for $1200 for his new project truck :cool: :cool: gunna put em on header rims $20 each .320 a corner is awsome for tyre and rims 38'' :lol:

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:24 am
by CRUSHU
i was looking for bigger, but maybe the supplier has bigger ones? also what is a header rim??

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:32 am
by Eddy
What vehicle you putting them on crushu??

"Header" rims are probably just rims built for agricultural machinery is my guess.

have a look at truck wreckers.......several advertising in "trader" mags.
usually have army surplus stuff at pretty good prices.

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 6:39 pm
by CRUSHU
blown F150, 12 inch lift

Re: XML

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 6:53 pm
by ISUZUROVER
gtwebbie wrote:A mate is getting a set of these new for $1200 for his new project truck :cool: :cool: gunna put em on header rims $20 each .320 a corner is awsome for tyre and rims 38'' :lol:


Which tyre exactly and where from?

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:56 pm
by RoldIT
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... ?tread=XZL



EDIT: :oops: Sorry, just noticed this link was already in another post up top.

xml

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 10:55 pm
by Webbie
XML's and can't say were, as mums the word :P :lol:

Re: xml

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:37 pm
by ISUZUROVER
gtwebbie wrote:XML's and can't say were, as mums the word :P :lol:


Can your mate get more for the same price? If so PM me. I thought the XML's were no longer available?

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:11 am
by Bush65
CRUSHU wrote:being speed rated, they are legal to be on the road.


When I looked at the smaller Michelins (around 38"), their speed rating was below the minimum for a passenger vehicle.

From memory the tyre speed rating was about 110 km/h but minumum allowed was about 140 km/h. Dont quote me on those figures, but it was the situation.

I did not investigate, whether an approved engineer can re-rate the speed rating of a tyre because the actual load is far less than the rated load (logically this should be the case).

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:42 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Bush65 wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:being speed rated, they are legal to be on the road.


When I looked at the smaller Michelins (around 38"), their speed rating was below the minimum for a passenger vehicle.

From memory the tyre speed rating was about 110 km/h but minumum allowed was about 140 km/h. Dont quote me on those figures, but it was the situation.

I did not investigate, whether an approved engineer can re-rate the speed rating of a tyre because the actual load is far less than the rated load (logically this should be the case).


Should be fine for a series Land Rover!!! I think the factory tyres were only speed rated to 110.