Outer Limits 4x4 Board

just wondering if there have ever been any 4wd parks close to sydney or are there any open? if there where why did they close

The only one i ever heard of was "Howes Valley" it closed down a little while ago!

I cannot work out how a 4WD park near sydney cannot afford to stay afloat yet aloan make a killing.

Considering that QLD has 3 Major parks within 4 hrs drive and another 3 minor parks similar distance and they all seem to be doing well and in fact some of them are making a small fortune! If Brisbane and S/E QLD can support that many i really can not see how Sydney and area can't support at least one!

I believe these days for a Park to be successful they need to accomodate for everyone from Stockers to Tube buggys wanting to climb 4 metre near vertical walls, to find the terrain to allow this and yet stay close enough to sydney must be the biggest problem!

POS wrote:I believe these days for a Park to be successful they need to accomodate for everyone from Stockers to Tube buggys wanting to climb 4 metre near vertical walls, to find the terrain to allow this and yet stay close enough to sydney must be the biggest problem!

I would say public liability insurance would be the largest hurdle. Shame, none in Melb.


There was chat from a bloke on here once that was opening somewhere "SOON". about 12-18 mths ago..

bogged wrote:

POS wrote:I believe these days for a Park to be successful they need to accomodate for everyone from Stockers to Tube buggys wanting to climb 4 metre near vertical walls, to find the terrain to allow this and yet stay close enough to sydney must be the biggest problem!

I would say public liability insurance would be the largest hurdle. Shame, none in Melb.


There was chat from a bloke on here once that was opening somewhere "SOON". about 12-18 mths ago..

Lexx was the man talking the talk. I just dont think he has been able to walk yet

Is that Sand park still open at Kurnell?

yeah kernell is still open - never really much of a challenge though

The park at Howes Valley closed because of complaints to council from their neighbours.

There was a park called "Madman's Territory" just out of Hill End near Bathurst. Went there years ago, don't know if its still open.

Rainbow Warrior wrote:Is that Sand park still open at Kurnell?

Save your breath.. You can go nearly everywhere out there now in a commodore... and we did

There are no real hills out there (when I was back there last yr), went for a run out to the beach to check out a mates shack, its still there... but they wanted to charge $15 I think it was to get in!

Antz wrote:There was a park called "Madman's Territory" just out of Hill End near Bathurst. Went there years ago, don't know if its still open.

plenty of goggle hits on it.
Madmans Territory 4WD Park, Hill End.
Contact Peter Gary on 02 63378323 or 02 47515200


http://www.bongbong.org.au/trips/mad.html looked good though!

In Brisbane we have access to-

Landcruiser Mountain Park
Black Duck Valley
Janowen
Rover Park
Arcot
Manar

Plus a few others I can't remember names of.

I heard Black Duck Valley was going to close down a few years ago but recently I heard that business is up and they are buying more property???

Plus some State Forests.

Also Fraser, Moreton, Straddie, Bribie and Double Island Point

Plenty of places to go around here

Bush65 wrote:The park at Howes Valley closed because of complaints to council from their neighbours.

Yes i heard that was the reason, i find it a little funny though!

At LCMP he keeps all the access roads graded and in fairly good nic, so the neighbours don't really mind. In fact most of the time the local council does it for him simply due to the amount of revenue the park puts threw the local area!

For example, every time we go up to LCMP we have to stop at Kilcoy AND RE-FUEL and grab a snack to eat. On a big weekend (MB&M, Expo etc etc) this tiny town would have over 1000 vehicles pass threw to get fuel and supplies. Also after a busy weekend the local towing company rubs his hands together due to the large number of weekend warriors!

So the fact that half of this tiny town is making big$$$ out of this one place is enough for them to stand up for the park if ever there was a complaint!

Maybe Howe vally did not have the local community on side, if they did i think they would have seen the $$$$ value in keeping them there!

Obviously there could have been other factors, these are just my thoughts!

Im pretty Sure Howes Valley had Neighbours as in Next Door. LCMPs closest neighbour is another motor sport complex one side and then a National park the other.

i heard that howes closed down just cuase they wernt getting enough people paying to come in and drive to cover all the insuanrce costs. there just wasnt enough people using it

spazbot wrote:i heard that howes closed down just cuase they wernt getting enough people paying to come in and drive to cover all the insuanrce costs. there just wasnt enough people using it

How far was Howes Valley from sydney, it was on the putty road or something wasn't it???

Howes Valley is just past the halfway house on putty rd...I remember when it was an off road buggy racing track..but thats going back many years ago now.....

Eddywelder wrote:Howes Valley is just past the halfway house on putty rd...I remember when it was an off road buggy racing track..but thats going back many years ago now.....

There are still some mad places you can go along putty road for a 4b run. But i never go there because its "illegal" *cough cough*.

My club had its birthday bash over the weekend just gone at Milbrodale. This is where the tuff truck chalange was held not that far past Howes Valley. I think it cost us $30 a head to the owner which also covered a couple of port-a-loos. The main restriction was we could not use the Tuff Truck Challange area but there was still other areas to play in.

there was one near mittagong, on the wombeyan caves road from memory. it was a nudist resort too...

Samuel wrote: But i never go there because its "illegal" *cough cough*.

*cough cough* your the man.

*cough cough* do you ever *cough cough* think that your *cough cough* part of the problem *cough cough* as to why places are being *cough cough* closed *cough cough* down and *cough cough* people are getting *cough cough* pissed off with 4wders and bush*cough cough* bashers?

napsta wrote:there was one near mittagong, on the wombeyan caves road from memory. it was a nudist resort too...

I'm sure that one is still going and even though the areas are segregated, the view or idea of what could be viewed maybe a little too revealing for some family orientated wheelers.

the place is still open not sure if you can still wheel there though will check it out when im down that way in 2 weeks, also there is another place called wollondilly river station at goodmans ford just up the road they are meant to have some 4wd tracks but they are closed atm cuase hes grazing cattle on em hopefully ill be able to check em out when we go down in a few weeks time to camp

Can someone make a list of all of them round sydney or near sydney (e.g. south coast) for me ranging from easy to hard please?

Samuel wrote:

Eddywelder wrote:Howes Valley is just past the halfway house on putty rd...I remember when it was an off road buggy racing track..but thats going back many years ago now.....

There are still some mad places you can go along putty road for a 4b run. But i never go there because its "illegal" *cough cough*.

all you seem to post about is driving on closed tracks, causing erosion cause it makes cool tracks, tearing down gates tec. maybe if you had a clue and realised this sort of behaviour causes areas to get closed. Wake up and try a little responsible driving

bogged wrote:

Samuel wrote: But i never go there because its "illegal" *cough cough*.

*cough cough* your the man.

*cough cough* do you ever *cough cough* think that your *cough cough* part of the problem *cough cough* as to why places are being *cough cough* closed *cough cough* down and *cough cough* people are getting *cough cough* pissed off with 4wders and bush*cough cough* bashers?

No i dont. Me and you have been through this a million times, and you never listen. So im not going to argue the point again. You can just keep whinging like a little bitch whilst i go 4wding. How does that sound?

grimbo wrote:

Samuel wrote:

Eddywelder wrote:Howes Valley is just past the halfway house on putty rd...I remember when it was an off road buggy racing track..but thats going back many years ago now.....

There are still some mad places you can go along putty road for a 4b run. But i never go there because its "illegal" *cough cough*.

all you seem to post about is driving on closed tracks, causing erosion cause it makes cool tracks, tearing down gates tec. maybe if you had a clue and realised this sort of behaviour causes areas to get closed. Wake up and try a little responsible driving

being responsible is boring.

Samuel wrote:

grimbo wrote:

Samuel wrote:

Eddywelder wrote:Howes Valley is just past the halfway house on putty rd...I remember when it was an off road buggy racing track..but thats going back many years ago now.....

There are still some mad places you can go along putty road for a 4b run. But i never go there because its "illegal" *cough cough*.

all you seem to post about is driving on closed tracks, causing erosion cause it makes cool tracks, tearing down gates tec. maybe if you had a clue and realised this sort of behaviour causes areas to get closed. Wake up and try a little responsible driving

Bcause being responsible is boring.

good answer idiot. While you go out wheeling illegally we will all suffer because you can't understand the damage it does for everyone else.

But hey have fun and enjoy yourself, don't worry about anyone else

grimbo wrote:

Samuel wrote:Bcause being responsible is boring.

good answer idiot. While you go out wheeling illegally we will all suffer because you can't understand the damage it does for everyone else.

But hey have fun and enjoy yourself, don't worry about anyone else

its a troll.. nobody could be that stupid... not even BJ and Tonkas love child...

IF it is a real breathing human, do you really think it gives a fuck about anyone else?

River Island (the nudist camp) on Wombeyan Caves Rd is closed to 4wds. It was open approx 10 months ago, and he was charging $25 a head to get in, but now he just shut it down.

grimbo wrote:

Samuel wrote:

grimbo wrote:

Samuel wrote:

Eddywelder wrote:Howes Valley is just past the halfway house on putty rd...I remember when it was an off road buggy racing track..but thats going back many years ago now.....

There are still some mad places you can go along putty road for a 4b run. But i never go there because its "illegal" *cough cough*.

all you seem to post about is driving on closed tracks, causing erosion cause it makes cool tracks, tearing down gates tec. maybe if you had a clue and realised this sort of behaviour causes areas to get closed. Wake up and try a little responsible driving

Bcause being responsible is boring.

good answer idiot. While you go out wheeling illegally we will all suffer because you can't understand the damage it does for everyone else.

But hey have fun and enjoy yourself, don't worry about anyone else

Ok i will thanks for the tip.