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MTR's on sand and 4wd or 2wd
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:27 am
by morkz
Hey
Am going to fraser Island in november what tyre pressure is recommended for MTR's on sand 15psi? Not sure
Also off the topic a bit do you really need to be in 4wd on fraser i.e. 4wd high or do you think i can could just use 2wd high.
also would it be that bad to run 4wd high ?
Last time i went their was in my disco and only used 4wd high but thats because it was full time 4wd.
any advice be appreciated.
Re: MTR's on sand and 4wd or 2wd
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:31 am
by bogged
wait and see the conditions..
Pressures, trial and error, start with 20 and see how you go. You can always let more out...
Why wouldnt you want 4wd? You wont get windup as the sand will spin the tires causing no issue.
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:45 am
by -Mick-
Much of fraser needs 4wd for sure. I don't bother with 4wd on double island etc, haven't used 4wd there for ages
Just use it when you need it. Fuel is way expensive there so using less in 2wd is good in my books

15 in your tyres is good but don't go much lower unless you need too. I usually leave mine about 18psi so I can fling it round with some confidence but it's a zook so it floats pretty well anyway

Re: MTR's on sand and 4wd or 2wd
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:50 am
by morkz
bogged wrote:Why wouldnt you want 4wd? You wont get windup as the sand will spin the tires causing no issue.
yeah i thought i might get windup (am new to nissan's) oh well i'll see how i go.
have a digital tyre guage and i'll just run around 20psi and take it from their i reckon i'll only be driving on hard packed stuff very little of the soft stuff but u never know really.
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:48 am
by -Scott-
Tread lightly! Use 4WD.
Scott
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:08 am
by grimbo
NJ SWB wrote:Tread lightly! Use 4WD.
Scott
exactly. Use 4wd to minimise any wheel spin, makes it a lot easier on the tracks and on your car.
I have dropped my 33 x 10.50 down to about 15psi on sand and snow and the difference to 20psi was amazing, it floated across the surface making it a lot easier to drive.
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:38 pm
by just cruizin'
Use 4wd all the time on sand, the amount of extra work the engine has to do pushing the front wheels through the sand in 2wd your joking yourself if you think you'll be conserving fuel specially in something heavy like a patrol
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:02 pm
by Rainbow Warrior
NJ SWB wrote:Tread lightly! Use 4WD.
Scott
Especially on the hard packed bit at low tide, for the beach to recover from the enviromental destruction caused by evil 4WD's in 2WD takes nearly 10 hours.
4wd on all inland tracks or on and off the beach for sure.
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:13 pm
by antt
what a load of shiat, ya dont need 4wd when your travelling along at 60+ kays on hard packed sand
getting OFF the beach and inland tracks you'll need it, but when your down by the water its a waste of time
t
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:23 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
never been to fraser but done heaps at stocko.
mate let em down to 20 or under.
and as everyone said see how you go.
depends on yoru vehicle,the tide, weather etc as to whats optimum.
but the lower is good. and if yoru a beginner i would be tempted to stick it in 4HI
takes the thinking out of things, and gives you better control should you get to a soft spot or wash away?
my 2 cents.
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:27 pm
by -Scott-
antt wrote:what a load of shiat, ya dont need 4wd when your travelling along at 60+ kays on hard packed sand
getting OFF the beach and inland tracks you'll need it, but when your down by the water its a waste of time
a: Stick it in 4wd and forget it,
or
b: Continually wonder if you should be in 2wd or 4wd, and swap backwards and forwards as you move on and off the beach.
"Waste of time"?
Hmmm...
Scott
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:28 pm
by bogged
antt wrote:but when your down by the water its a waste of time
...
Read on...
... i had to drop down closer to the waterline as there were a few lovely twits parked on the high track. the result was a nissan and jayco camper sitting on there bellies. :(:(.
this leads me to the human nature bit.
my undying thanks to the dozen or so 4by drivers who had great pleasure in roaring past, not bothering to stop.
to the twits who parked on the high track, may your 4by's fall apart in front of your eyes.
to the mongrel who flew past us on the ocean side-drowning the interior of the nissan in salt water and sand.....i know your rego.......Do Not Ever Expect Assistance From Me....!
to the driver of a blue 100 series landcruiser with an ExploreOz sticker on the back window.......get stuffed moron.
to the driver of a white Rangie and his girlfriend... my most heartfelt thanks that you stopped and offered your assistance... ever need help... just ask.. i'll be there for ya.
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:31 pm
by antt
i can change to h4 on the fly, so its not a big undertaking to go from 2->4 to get off the beach
and bogged, they were towing a trailer, totally different kettle of fish

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:39 pm
by morkz
thanks for the advice
i was more concerned of transmission windup not to sure about the patrols but i will stay in 4H while am on the island and doing some exploring will just see how i go with tyre pressure i'll be fairly loaded up.
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:51 pm
by ozy1
i myself done fraser with my olds last xmas, myself, GQ patrol, and the olds with their GU, we spent most of the time in 2hi, they have alot of rubber matting slight hill tracks now, but i can shift on the fly so it never bothers me, i did this on the weekend at stockton,
the difference in my MTR's comparted to A/T's, the MTR's are way better on sand, but this may be cause they are an inch wider.
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:44 pm
by beretta
We towed a bike trailer loaded up to the hilt into the Dunes at Robe and just bropped the muddies down to 20psi, made a huge difference just going down to 20. Depends on the depth and hardness of the sand, and if it has had any rain or not, try 20 psi. Trans wind up the last of your problems, plenty of spin on the sand, won't be a problem, you're far better off just leaving it in 4wd.