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22R Problem

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 2:08 pm
by robbie
hey all

got a problem with my 22R.

If I am driving down the street, and put the clutch in, the revs drop all the way down, sometimes to 200, or even 0 and stall..

If i let engine braking work, and let the vehicle slow down by itself, sometimes it doesn't do this.

I know for sure, that the car is running too rich - could this be the only problem I have?

My theory is the car is flooding and stalling itself

Anyone got any ideas / past experiences with this type of thing?

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:24 pm
by BUNDERA
Just clarify this for me...
so if you try and let the car idle it will stall.

if this is the case and it will only keep running if you have the loud pedel down (either a little bit or all the way), it would most likely be a carby problem.

The Float level could be wrong.
Jets Blocked or even lack of fuel (which was the case in mine).

As you said it could be flooding itself but on the other hand it might not be getting enough petrol which is why you have to keep the revs up to get the juices flowing :D (Which I think is more likely if it is reving at 200rpm) (must sound absolutly fukd)

If it is lack of fuel it could be the fuel pump (mine was stuffed and caused it to stall if you didn't keep your foot down).

Tell me more detials and I will let you know what I recon and i will check my manual.

Cheers,
Nick

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:32 pm
by robbie
aye nick

had a leaky fuel pump, just replaced that, but wasn't the problem

if the car is idling there, the revs start dropping down by themselves, and eventually the car will stall

it is running rich - blowing heaps of black smoke!

as the car lowers on revs, you can hear it choking, sounds like its farked... yeh

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:53 pm
by BUNDERA
Yeah well you are probably right it might be flooding, but it could sitll be lack of fuel like a blocked jet.

You should probably rip of the carby (only 4 bolts and a couple of fuel lines and vacume lines.... Clean the whole lot in petrol. This may seem daungting (it did to me the first time. But it is soo simple. You will only need a good set of screw drivers, socket set and a maybe a pair of pliers.

To remove:
4 bolts
Vacume lines (label and map them on a piece of paper as there are about 5 that need to be removed)
Fuel lines -make sure the engine aint too hot incase you spill abit
Air intake (3 bolts I think and a bit of hosing)
Electronic Choke socket.

Once you get it off, just wash it all in petrol, to get all the crap off it. Once you have done that seperate the top from the bottom (about six screws with one hidden in the middle :wink: ) Once you have these to parts seperated then wash in clean petrol.

Remove the jets with a screw driver (being careful not to fukup...strip...the head) and wash in petrol.

Check the float level (near enough is good enough :lol: ) and then pull any other bits you think might need a clean, like the accelerator pump and the float needle.

PLEASE NOTE IF YOU GO AHEAD WITH THIS YOU WILL NEED A GASKET/OVERHALL KIT as you are bound to break the old gaskets. A kit also includes a new accelerator pump and float needle and gaskets

They cost around 70$ and have a pull apart diagram of the carby so you know what does what and what bit goes where :D

HAVING A WORKSHOP MANUAL IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED as it talks you through everything.

Bung er all back to gether and hopefully if will fix the problem.

Hope it helps.

Nick

I actually I have a 22R problem as well I will post in 20mins!!

If you grab a workshop manual for it (40$ (or hire it from your local libary(they will definatly have one, as even tassie does :D )but well spent as I use it before I do anything to double check and find out stuff)

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:57 pm
by robbie
I will rip it off, and send it to a carby joint

they will only charge ~$100 (so for 30$ more than the gasket kit / overhaul kit) it will be worth it

thanks for the reply nick

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 6:10 pm
by BUNDERA
np maybe u can help with mine :)

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 7:06 pm
by RUFF
It has a blocked idle jet.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:20 pm
by robbie
ruff: cheers - I am pretty sure you are right too! :o

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:05 pm
by RUFF
robbie wrote:ruff: cheers - I am pretty sure you are right too! :o


So am I :lol:

This is Bootie but usually an easy fix. Remove the top cover that goes to the aircleaner on the carb.
Start the engine and then take a good sized rag that you can bunch up in your hand. Rev the engine using the linkages on the side of the carb fairly hard and then without letting the revs die choke the engine off with the rag by blocking the top of the carb.
Now before it stalls remove the rag and rev the engine again till it runs properly again.
You may have to repeat this a few times but it will usually suck what ever is in the jet through and clear the prob up.
Make sure the rag is big enough that it doesnt get sucked in to the carb.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:07 pm
by robbie
ahh, sounds like an easy fix!

gotta get it tuned up anyway - running rich as a b!tch!

thanks for the help mate