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Ok, Just got a quote for OME lift from an ARB outlet, and wanted some help with some questions.

Firstly, Im very happy with the quote, although some of the things explained to me made me a little confused.

Firstly, I thought that a 2 inch lift on a GQ SWB required the gearbox spacers to be put in, but just told it is very rare to need them, even though it is only $30 if later required. Has anyone had a lift on a Shorty without the Gearbox Packers????

Secondly, Will I need the castor correction kit, just been told this is also rarely required, this would be an additional $300.

Finally, Putting in the 10mm spacers, but on the quote only 2 are listed, so do these only go on the rear?


Thanks for any info you can give on these questions.

GQAndrew wrote:Has anyone had a lift on a Shorty without the Gearbox Packers????

heaps of people. Its a lottery on Shortys.. some will go 4inch with nothing.

Secondly, Will I need the castor correction kit, just been told this is also rarely required, this would be an additional $300.

Shortys are a lottery, some do some dont.

Finally, Putting in the 10mm spacers, but on the quote only 2 are listed, so do these only go on the rear?

Ask the place doing it..

I was unsure if I needed new bushes when doing my 2 inch lift as well until I crawled underneath to see they were completely trashed. Rubber had seperated from the steel sleeving.
As Bogged said its a bit of a lottery but if their cactus already you may have your answer.

Just bought some OME Nitrocharger shocks today for the rear of the GQ.

Was originally after N19L and N29L to suit GQ wagon (L is appx 65mm longer) but was told all 'L' series shocks are classsified as competition shocks and ARB offer no warranty whatsoever on these. In the end I sacrificed about 2" of droop for the 2 year/40k km wty. So they better honor it if necessary.

Also very interesting: I've looked at a lot of shocks lately and something about the OME's looked familiar - in fact they looked identical to some Monroe (16-0208) shocks I'd looked at the day before. So I mentioned this to the ARB guy and he admitted that they are made in the Australian Monroe factory. I said "I hope I'm not paying OME prices for Monroe shocks with an OME sticker on them" and he said "no, no, they are made in a different part of the factory etc etc." I'm not convinced but ended up buying them ($278/pair)

Also, Monroe make an 'L' series shock for the GQ in their 16 series shocks. I was quoted $216 for a pair from Autobarn. I've got a strong suspicion its the same shock as the OME and there would probably be a warrenty on the Monroes as well. Compressing the Monroe on the bench in Autobarn, the valving felt the same as the OME.

So, the OME Nitrocharger is an Monroe shock, whether they are different internally, I dont know.

Just had a look on the Monroe website, the L16-208 (GQ long travel rear) has a 2 year warranty. Same as the OME's eg 35mm piston etc, same color etc. But a lot cheaper. Still not sure if the internals are different.

Thanks for the replies.

Going to go ahead with the OME, was deciding between Tough Dog and OME, and have heard too many bad reports about the TDs, and only very limited for the OME.


Cheers

Actually, can anyone who has the OME Springs LWB or SWB, tell me which ones they went for. (meaning heavy, medium etc)

The guy recommended medium for the back, and standard for the front for mine, All are the 50mm increase.

I went medium all round and wish now I had gone heavy in the back.
Reason being once the family/camping gear/food/water etc etc is all loaded up the truck sits a little lower than what I would really like.
Think about total weights of people and gear go from there. Remember water/liquids weigh about 1kg for every litre.
Doesn't take long before the weight adds up.

I run N19L's and N29L's .
Work good. So N19 and N29 should be OK for you.

With the L's you must ensure springs are long enough on droop. Most are not.

Bazzle

Oh, and Ive been told that I will be able to run 33 x 12.5 with the 2 inch lift, providing they are on the Toyota 8 inch Offset Rims.

Is this correct?

GQAndrew wrote:Oh, and Ive been told that I will be able to run 33 x 12.5 with the 2 inch lift, providing they are on the Toyota 8 inch Offset Rims.

Is this correct?

u should be able to run 33's on nissan offset at standard height, by going 2 inch & body lift u will clear 35's easy enough but remeber to lengthen bumpstops.

Also don't compare suspension between lwb & swb as the angles are different

Big Red Toy wrote:

GQAndrew wrote:u should be able to run 33's on nissan offset at standard height, by going 2 inch & body lift u will clear 35's easy enough but remeber to lengthen bumpstops.

Also don't compare suspension between lwb & swb as the angles are different

Suspension links are all the same. Just the wieght of the vehicle is different. Was that what you where getting at.

The front there isnt much different in the wieghts between LWB and SWB.
And this really only matters with how the coil operates. Pretty sure front and rear shocks are the same for all GQ's (ie fronts are the same as each over and same for the rear).

Atleast thats what it says for OME/Koni.

As for the OME/Monroe thing, there arent many shock companys in the world. So alot of these companys make shocks to a certain companys specs.
Was speaking to a susp person the other week and he said there was a difference in the shaft size between Monroe and OME but the monroes had better seals.

On that same subject of offset rims??????, Another post said SPEEDY Wheels make the -28 ofset rims for nissan, now with a four inch spring lift and these rims with extended bump stops, will a GQ LWB fit 35" rubber under gaurds with SNAKERACINGS 12mm front spacers( not sure what they are called) to move the front diff forward??? I have read for ours on this forum with this subject and come out more confused than when i started. I really do not want to lift 6".

muddyperils wrote:On that same subject of offset rims??????, Another post said SPEEDY Wheels make the -28 ofset rims for nissan, now with a four inch spring lift and these rims with extended bump stops, will a GQ LWB fit 35" rubber under gaurds with SNAKERACINGS 12mm front spacers( not sure what they are called) to move the front diff forward??? I have read for ours on this forum with this subject and come out more confused than when i started. I really do not want to lift 6".

Just ignore my ignorance found the good news on page three

i just swapped out my monroes for OME n19 and 29's, and was very surprised when i put the 2 shocks on the ground next to each other that they were the same extended length, even though the monroes are quoted as standard length, and the OME's are quoted to suit 50mm lift. Hmm. Must say though that either my monroes were farnarkled (when i bought the car, the guy said he put them on 2 years ago, and he wasn't a 4wdriver) or the OME's are valved differently, cauz they ride a hell of a lot better, on the same king springs, which incidently, dont fall out at full droop, even though they are standard length.

marin