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Drama fitting extractors
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:23 am
by DUR71 THOUGHTS
Just finished putting on my extractors after 4 1/2 hrs. Never thought it would be so much trouble. Had to remove air cond thingy and then when I put the extractors on I could only get 6 out of 8 bolts back in, holes just wouldn't line up. Only out by a fraction of a millimeter but they just wouldn't go in. Will this affect it at all? The extractors are on tight and don't move so I am not sure how they will go. Getting a 2" exhaust on tomorrow.
Started her up and at idle she runs just like normal but when you give it some gas she's far kin loud! It will be interesting driving to the exhaust shop tomorrow morning.
Any one else have dramas fitting extractors? I thought it would be a quick and easy take off and bolt back on again.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:56 am
by Yeah mate
I don,t know any one who has fitted extractors/headers would say it was a peicie of pi$$. Yes install all bolts, as the gasket will blow out in no time.
Start with the hardest ones to get to, leave the easy to last, leave all bolts loose until you have them all in. In most cases you have to lever with jimmy bar or phillips screw driver in holes to get them to line up.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:14 am
by Utemad
If the bolts don't go back in perhaps the holes on the extractors were not drilled in exactly the right spot. Put all bolts in loose before you do them up and see if that helps. If not you will probably have to file the extractor bolt holes a bit.
As said driving without all your bolts in properly will fcuk your gasket.
It was a piece of piss when I installed mine.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:19 am
by 83 lux
no as far as i know dur71 has a 2.2 and by the sounds of it he has got 2.4 extractor they will be fine thou
Re: Drama fitting extractors
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:45 am
by bogged
DUR71 THOUGHTS wrote:Will this affect it at all?
the ones we fitted to my GQ were piss easy thankfully..
Do it right, or dont do it I say.
Will it affect it? I would say yes, leaking mainfold gasket weekly, remove extractors and file the hole out, will take 0 time per hole...
If the place fitting your zaust is the ones you bought them from, tell them to fix it.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:17 pm
by murcod
Be thankful you didn't have any head studs break off when removing your old manifold!
I'd just be enlarging the troublesome holes a bit- but make sure you do fit them. Could be wise to pay a bit extra and get a flex section added after the extractors too- should only cost an extra $50 or so but could save the exhaust breaking with engine movement.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:59 pm
by RV80
murcod wrote:Be thankful you didn't have any
head studs break off when removing your old manifold!
I'd just be enlarging the troublesome holes a bit- but make sure you do fit them. Could be wise to pay a bit extra and get a flex section added after the extractors too- should only cost an extra $50 or so but could save the exhaust breaking with engine movement.
how could you break off a head stud removing an exhaust manifold.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:00 pm
by Hybrid
RV wrote:murcod wrote:Be thankful you didn't have any
head studs break off when removing your old manifold!
I'd just be enlarging the troublesome holes a bit- but make sure you do fit them. Could be wise to pay a bit extra and get a flex section added after the extractors too- should only cost an extra $50 or so but could save the exhaust breaking with engine movement.
how could you break off a head stud removing an exhaust manifold.
Lefty tighty righty loosey I guess lol.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:03 pm
by murcod
Hybrid wrote:RV wrote:murcod wrote:Be thankful you didn't have any
head studs break off when removing your old manifold!
I'd just be enlarging the troublesome holes a bit- but make sure you do fit them. Could be wise to pay a bit extra and get a flex section added after the extractors too- should only cost an extra $50 or so but could save the exhaust breaking with engine movement.
how could you break off a head stud removing an exhaust manifold.
Lefty tighty righty loosey I guess lol.
It's called rust and has a habit of making old fasteners hard to undo.... I take it you guys haven't fitted extractors to an older vehicle? It's not an uncommon thing to happen. And I'm talking the studs that screw into the head to secure the extractors.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:06 pm
by Utemad
RV wrote:murcod wrote:Be thankful you didn't have any
head studs break off when removing your old manifold!
I'd just be enlarging the troublesome holes a bit- but make sure you do fit them. Could be wise to pay a bit extra and get a flex section added after the extractors too- should only cost an extra $50 or so but could save the exhaust breaking with engine movement.
how could you break off a head stud removing an exhaust manifold.
I was told to be extremely careful removing my exhaust manifold as the 2.6litre is renowned for breaking studs during the process.
I had a mechanic break a stud when replacing a manifold gasket on a work VS Commodore.
So it is easy enough to do.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:21 pm
by RV80
how do head studs rust. aren't they covered in oil. now
exhaust manifold studs on the other hand do rust.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:23 pm
by murcod
RV wrote:how do head studs rust. aren't they covered in oil. now
exhaust manifold studs on the other hand do rust.
Bored are we?
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:27 pm
by RV80
a little. my tv is in getting repaired.
don't get upset i'm only stirring.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:42 pm
by revin
All but 1 of the exhaust studs broke when i did my 60 seriers
what a good time i had.
I`ve also found that useing slastic on both surfaces instead of a gasket works best but engine must be completely cold and then not driven for a couple of hours after aswell
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:44 pm
by RV80
revin wrote:
I`ve also found that useing slastic on both surfaces instead of a gasket works best but engine must be completely cold and then not driven for a couple of hours after aswell
something like ultra blue is the go.