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GQ front or rear locker?
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:12 pm
by muddies
Need to know if it is better to buy a front locker or rear locker? I only have enough dosh for one air locker. lsd in rear .

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:28 pm
by turps
Wack it in the front. As you already have a half arsed traction aid in the back. know of a GQ and a GU ute with these setups and they seem quite happy, for now.
front
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:59 pm
by Doggy
I agree, wack it in the front. I put my air locker in the front because my rear lsd is tight as all fark and im really happy with the way it is. The only real problem is that when its engaged, it kills your turning circle, so when i'm cruising through carparks looking cool i make sure my lockers off

Re: front
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:21 pm
by bogged
Funny.. Was just tonight talking to bazzle over a bottle of port tonight, and we discussed this.
his old school thought was front.. but now he says after more yrs of trial and error, to put it in the rear. More chance of pushing up hill, better chance of keeping the steering going..
One thing I notice lots watching vids and shit of comps, that when both fronts are spinning on a front lockered car on any sort of off camber, the car always goes sideways, that would suck ass on a greasy hill with a 400ft drop on one side.. but with a single spinner it doesnt happen, you would keep steering, and the rear locker would push you up..
could be wrong, wouldnt be the first time
Re: front
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:34 pm
by Beastmavster
bogged wrote:Funny.. Was just tonight talking to bazzle over a bottle of port tonight, and we discussed this.
his old school thought was front.. but now he says after more yrs of trial and error, to put it in the rear. More chance of pushing up hill, better chance of keeping the steering going..
One thing I notice lots watching vids and shit of comps, that when both fronts are spinning on a front lockered car on any sort of off camber, the car always goes sideways, that would suck ass on a greasy hill with a 400ft drop on one side.. but with a single spinner it doesnt happen, you would keep steering, and the rear locker would push you up..
could be wrong, wouldnt be the first time
Put it in the front....
If you were dumb enough to try said hill with 400 ft drop you'd better buy a parachute instead of a locker.

Re: front
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:52 pm
by bogged
Beastmavster wrote:If you were dumb enough to try said hill with 400 ft drop you'd better buy a parachute instead of a locker.
You have never tried going up a mountain with a large drop on one side?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:18 pm
by Beastmavster
I have...... but 400 ft drop on a greasy slope would make me turn back.
I don't need to prove how good I am quite that much.
For me it aint a literal life or death thing you know.
Re: front
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:13 am
by Daisy
bogged wrote:Funny.. Was just tonight talking to bazzle over a bottle of port tonight, and we discussed this.
his old school thought was front.. but now he says after more yrs of trial and error, to put it in the rear. More chance of pushing up hill, better chance of keeping the steering going..
One thing I notice lots watching vids and shit of comps, that when both fronts are spinning on a front lockered car on any sort of off camber, the car always goes sideways, that would suck ass on a greasy hill with a 400ft drop on one side.. but with a single spinner it doesnt happen, you would keep steering, and the rear locker would push you up..
could be wrong, wouldnt be the first time
I kinda agree there.
As it makes sense about the front sliding when the lockers engaged on an off camber situation. Guess its matter of turning the front off and leavin the rear locker engaged to do the job on a situation like this
Im in process of installin a front atm, coz ive been in positions where the rears going hard (2.8 LSD) and the front is only spinnin in one wheel. I'll give it a go like bazzle said,, its trial and error, Going to put a rear locker in one day as soon as more moolah comes my way.
TOM
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:53 am
by hottiemonster
get both

but if i was to choose, i would go a front first
Re: front
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:07 am
by bogged
GQ wrote:I'll give it a go like bazzle said,, its trial and error, Going to put a rear locker in one day as soon as more moolah comes my way.
is front and rear locker the same part #? could you swap.?
Re: front
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:31 pm
by turps
bogged wrote:GQ wrote:I'll give it a go like bazzle said,, its trial and error, Going to put a rear locker in one day as soon as more moolah comes my way.
is front and rear locker the same part #? could you swap.?
Nope they are different. Due to the front being high pinion.
Front is RD09
Rear is RD17
please read the polciy disclosure statement. Ie look it up on www.arb.com.au you slacker. It's not like your busy. Also this is only for GQ's.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:39 pm
by RokToy4x4
definatly front first

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:30 am
by XterraGuy
Can't see how high or low pinion itself would affect locker application, but it's certainly possible that something else about the housing that does matter could have been spec'd differently when the HP housing was designed.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:41 am
by bazzle
RD17 33.3mm 33 splines
RD09 32mm 31 splines
Bazzle
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:05 am
by XterraGuy
Well there ya have it...
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:36 am
by bogged
bazzle wrote:RD17 33.3mm 33 splines
RD09 32mm 31 splines
Bazzle
smart anus. POQ to QLD
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:57 am
by bru21
Beastmavster wrote:I have...... but 400 ft drop on a greasy slope would make me turn back.
I don't need to prove how good I am quite that much.
For me it aint a literal life or death thing you know.
and you are on this forum why?????
just kidding mate
bru.
i had one in the rear first (had no choice on the 2nd hand matter).
lets face it though sooner or later you will have both

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:53 am
by Beastmavster
If you had a stuffed LSD or no LSD you would have to go rear first. If your LSD is good front first to be sure. But yeah you want both long term.
Re: front
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:59 pm
by ORSM45
bogged wrote:Funny.. Was just tonight talking to bazzle over a bottle of port tonight, and we discussed this.
his old school thought was front.. but now he says after more yrs of trial and error, to put it in the rear. More chance of pushing up hill, better chance of keeping the steering going..
One thing I notice lots watching vids and shit of comps, that when both fronts are spinning on a front lockered car on any sort of off camber, the car always goes sideways, that would suck ass on a greasy hill with a 400ft drop on one side.. but with a single spinner it doesnt happen, you would keep steering, and the rear locker would push you up..
could be wrong, wouldnt be the first time
i recon its the otherway. my bro has twin lockers. his mate didint. his mate slipped off a greasy off camber hill into some scrub. my bro just cruised over it. took the same line.
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:02 pm
by Screwy
I think that If u have a TIGHT LSD in the rear then Go a front locker First.
But if ur rear is open,
but a Locker in the rear first

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:49 pm
by bru21
Screwy_ScrewBall wrote:I think that If u have a TIGHT rear then Go a front locker First.
But if ur rear is open,
but a Locker in the rear first than the front:D
good advice mate
