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5 Link On 80

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:18 pm
by crankycruiser
Any Feedback would be good about this subject...

Am seriously thinking of getting one for the 80 as looks like insurance isn't gunna fix it!! (hole nother story)

Anyway where is the best place to inquire about these??

Whats the drivability on road like??

Any draw backs that anyone knows of???

Cheers Ray.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:21 pm
by ORSM45
some people recon they are too loose. like driving along with flat tyres and loose wheel nuts.

but depends on how you set it up.

flex awesome. but do you really need that much flex?

is the extra flex worth the extra hassles?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:21 pm
by RV80

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:39 pm
by crankycruiser
383FJ45 wrote:some people recon they are too loose. like driving along with flat tyres and loose wheel nuts.

but depends on how you set it up.

flex awesome. but do you really need that much flex?

is the extra flex worth the extra hassles?


I have to replace my front diff housing, trailing arms and panhard rods anyway after an accident so I figure I might as well have a look at doing it....

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:42 pm
by crankycruiser
RV wrote:http://www.overkill4x4.com/suspension.html#anchor_28


It say's that they will not supply the kit unless they can install it themselves......

I'm in Tassie.. :cry:

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:00 am
by hypo
email them or PM OVERKILL ENGINEERING from this board and have a chat about it maybe u can work somethin out Sam is a pretty reasonable guy and always willing 2 help out

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:00 am
by ferog
Who on the board has a 5 link in their 80 series?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:42 am
by 80UTE
I do and its a big jobbie a done mine with all straight control arms and kept a 240mm vertical distance between the upper and lower control arms so the diff dosen't twist too much under braking torque. I put 360' rotators on all my adjustable control arms as it helps to be able to adjust caster to get the handling right. Mine handles real good concidering i have over 12 travel in the front and the cornering just takes some getting used to. :) :)

Wally

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:55 am
by pcman
daz is doing 5link on his 40 :)
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... &start=420

page 14 for pics

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:10 am
by Surfection
I would give Cheezy a call. He's nice and close to you and has extensive experience with linked front suspension set ups.

http://www.cheezyracing.com.au/

From the website - "We also offer a 5 link front suspension. Our 5 link offer great articulation properties, whilst also ensuring the steering is tight and uncompromising.

Built specifically to suit your requirements. Please call us for specifics on this and to discuss your requirements. Pricing: A-Frame - $2000+ ,
5-Link - $2200+"

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:41 pm
by dow50r
Isnt there a bolt on 5 link kit for the 80 series?? Mr Mannell advertises them.
Andrew

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:06 pm
by RV80
dow50r wrote:Isnt there a bolt on 5 link kit for the 80 series?? Mr Mannell advertises them.
Andrew


i thought they are GQ bolt on kits?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:34 pm
by crankycruiser
I rang Mannell motors today and he told me that he wont even install them in an 80 because they drive like shit on the road... reckons they r a waste of time.

Anyway more comments would be appreciated..

Thanks Guys

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:38 pm
by RV80
what about radius arm flip? i believe overkill make
the plates for about 180 bucks. offers a bit better
flex.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:58 pm
by crankycruiser
er heard of em.. What do they do??

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:07 pm
by RV80
put the front control arm's on top of the diff, allowing
correct castor(no plates or corection bushes, just standard
factory 1's) allow's room for thicker moly steering rod's.
and that's all i know send overkill a pm.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... lip+plates

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:03 pm
by ORSM45
thats the way i got my arms on my 45 (with 80 arms)

theres nothing hanging below the housing.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:28 pm
by crankycruiser
How hard is it to set up?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:32 pm
by RV80
crankycruiser wrote:How hard is it to set up?


i'd imagine the hardest part would be setting up for
correct castor. cut the old brackets off and throw
in the bin. fit the arms on top with the new plates
bolted on. work out the castor and start welding.
don't quote me. this is just a guess.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:22 am
by Daisy
RV wrote:
crankycruiser wrote:How hard is it to set up?


i'd imagine the hardest part would be setting up for
correct castor. cut the old brackets off and throw
in the bin. fit the arms on top with the new plates
bolted on. work out the castor and start welding.
don't quote me. this is just a guess.


thought they were bolt on :?:

As the cruisers do have an extra bolt hole at the top and its just a matter of makin a plate to suit :?:

No idea either.. someone fill us in?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:45 am
by MY45
crankycruiser wrote:I rang Mannell motors today and he told me that he wont even install them in an 80 because they drive like shit on the road... reckons they r a waste of time.

Anyway more comments would be appreciated..

Thanks Guys


I recon he's full of shit. Ive heard of lots of 5 links woring on cruisers......Go with overkill or cheezy :cool:

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:54 am
by 65Mog
crankycruiser wrote:I rang Mannell motors today and he told me that he wont even install them in an 80 because they drive like shit on the road... reckons they r a waste of time.

Anyway more comments would be appreciated..

Thanks Guys


I'd say listen to Mannell, have a think about running the arms on top of the housing this is a good mod on 80s.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:35 pm
by RV80
what' the verdict cranky

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:32 pm
by ORSM45
dont throw the old mounts in the bin, you reuse them im pretty sure.

wouldnt say flex would change as its the housings resistance to twist that stops the articulation. it just doesnt have anything lower than the housing.

personally id stick with the radius arms. more stable at speeds.

flex is overrated. especially if it causes engineers to kick up a fuss and stuff you around.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:35 pm
by RV80
383FJ45 wrote:dont throw the old mounts in the bin, you reuse them im pretty sure.


new laser cut plates $180 from overkill

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:46 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
The flip plates don't allow more travel as they can't.
They do allow you to get the castor correct without having the tie rod hitting the radius arms and as they make the arms sit alot flatter handles heaps better.
SAM

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:23 pm
by RV80
was i right about the price?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:49 am
by OVERKILL ENG
RV wrote:was i right about the price?

yes

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:10 pm
by crankycruiser
RV wrote:what' the verdict cranky



Going to go the flip arms I would say....

Talked to Sam and it sounds a hole lot easier than the five link and I still want it to be driveable on road so it looks like the way to go...

Thanks for all the advice fellas.

Just gotta get the cruizer bac now so I can do it!!

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:04 am
by Reddo
crankycruiser wrote:
RV wrote:what' the verdict cranky



Going to go the flip arms I would say....

Talked to Sam and it sounds a hole lot easier than the five link and I still want it to be driveable on road so it looks like the way to go...

Thanks for all the advice fellas.

Just gotta get the cruizer bac now so I can do it!!


Though you would go that way ;)