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SPOA WOES!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:28 pm
by hypo
heya...

the old man an i did a SOA on his 2F 60 series over the weekend..

al went pretty good but have a few issues that we have solutions 2 but just wanna check if any1 else has other ideas that may b better.

wif the truck siittin at ride height the front shaft hits the crossmember and cannont b connected 2 the diff flange..

wot we wanna know is, is it best 2 notch the crossmemeber out until we get the shaft 2 clear at full droop ?? or should we space down the crossmemeber and then space the gearbox/t-case back up ?? or a combimation of both ??

if any1 else has come across this or know any other options i have not said please post up...

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:49 pm
by RV80
just notch the cross member. unless it looks
like it'll take to much out. then try the combo.
or completley fabricate a new one.

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:14 pm
by dumbdunce
will the front shaft be long enough even with the crossmember notched? perhaps a combination of a slight notching, plus a tailshaft spacer at the transfer case flange would be effective? Here is one I did on matty's 75 series, you can't see the notch but it is only the spot-welded flange cut off so the thick section is still all intact, then welded over to close it up tidily. It didn't really even need the notching except with the front axle at absolute full droop.




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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:32 pm
by glen1n
happened to me, this problem did. a combination of notching your member ;) , tailshaft spacer, and double cardinal worked for me. :)

I'll take pictures 2 moro

soa

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:47 pm
by humphey
how heigh is it now ? how much angle on the shaft? is it 4/5 speed .

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:32 pm
by MY45
glen1n wrote:happened to me, this problem did. a combination of notching your member ;) , tailshaft spacer, and double cardinal worked for me. :)

I'll take pictures 2 moro


Yeah we did this to glens and the double cardin helps with vibes....you really cant notice it in glens :cool:

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:50 pm
by hypo
the truck is pretty high its got a 50mm body lift in there aswell but thats not comin out coz all the bar work was made after the bodylift....

i cant get it any lower coz if i take a left out of the front the springs invert just sittin there so unfortunatly its gunna have 2 do...

i like that idea there dumdunce, interested in buildin another ??

id do it myself but i dont have time 2 work on dads truck now as i gots lots 2 do 2 mine b4 nissan trials....

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:02 pm
by dumbdunce
hypolux wrote:the truck is pretty high its got a 50mm body lift in there aswell but thats not comin out coz all the bar work was made after the bodylift....

i cant get it any lower coz if i take a left out of the front the springs invert just sittin there so unfortunatly its gunna have 2 do...

i like that idea there dumdunce, interested in buildin another ??

id do it myself but i dont have time 2 work on dads truck now as i gots lots 2 do 2 mine b4 nissan trials....


another spacer? yeah I think I've got bits lying around to do it. how long do you want it? say fitty bucks? might need to redrill it depending on which 60 series flanges I've got.

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:33 pm
by Monty
good chance it would be the same as my old diff being a 2f would be around the same time mine was produced and i have had problems with the newer 60s flanges

t

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:13 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
When is someone starting up a syndicate on Bets on how much stuff Hypo breaks at nissan trials??

I will take the magic number 4 i think.
im thinking he breaks stuff every trip, so everytrip being equivelant to every 2nd stage i reckon i should go close.....

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:33 pm
by Monty
Is Dan going to be your navy again this year Ben?

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:38 pm
by MY45
Monty wrote:Is Dan going to be your navy again this year Ben?

Nup...he's driving the 40 :twisted:

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:44 pm
by hypo
how the fark did a post about my old mans 60 turn into a flame job about me at nissan trials DRS ??

if u got nuffin useful 2 add fark off

and my45 monty is talkin bout dan j (danystoyowagon)

and no mate i got a1mav navy this year

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:25 am
by Monty
cool

Have you got any photos of your dads truck now spoa would be keen to see how high it sits

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:33 am
by dumbdunce
dumbdunce wrote:
hypolux wrote:the truck is pretty high its got a 50mm body lift in there aswell but thats not comin out coz all the bar work was made after the bodylift....

i cant get it any lower coz if i take a left out of the front the springs invert just sittin there so unfortunatly its gunna have 2 do...

i like that idea there dumdunce, interested in buildin another ??

id do it myself but i dont have time 2 work on dads truck now as i gots lots 2 do 2 mine b4 nissan trials....


another spacer? yeah I think I've got bits lying around to do it. how long do you want it? say fitty bucks? might need to redrill it depending on which 60 series flanges I've got.


also is the front shaft a double cardan type and if it is, does it have the same flange as the regular unis, or is it a wider flange?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:41 am
by MY45
hypolux wrote:how the fark did a post about my old mans 60 turn into a flame job about me at nissan trials DRS ??

if u got nuffin useful 2 add fark off

and my45 monty is talkin bout dan j (danystoyowagon)

and no mate i got a1mav navy this year


Ben i think DRS was only joking dude....Damn it there is so many dans on here :oops: :oops: :oops:

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:48 am
by hypo
dumbdunce wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:
hypolux wrote:the truck is pretty high its got a 50mm body lift in there aswell but thats not comin out coz all the bar work was made after the bodylift....

i cant get it any lower coz if i take a left out of the front the springs invert just sittin there so unfortunatly its gunna have 2 do...

i like that idea there dumdunce, interested in buildin another ??

id do it myself but i dont have time 2 work on dads truck now as i gots lots 2 do 2 mine b4 nissan trials....


another spacer? yeah I think I've got bits lying around to do it. how long do you want it? say fitty bucks? might need to redrill it depending on which 60 series flanges I've got.


also is the front shaft a double cardan type and if it is, does it have the same flange as the regular unis, or is it a wider flange?


no its single unis both ends, the old man found a shaft he got from another 60 that is double cardin and we gettin a new shaft made 2day, the bolt holes dont line up tho but just gunna knock out the stud on the t/case flange and redrill them 90degrees from the originals..

i have also notched the crossmember but the uni at the top binds b4 suspension reaches full droop so i still cant c if its gunna hit crossmemebr yet :roll: :roll:

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:56 am
by dumbdunce
hypolux wrote:
no its single unis both ends, the old man found a shaft he got from another 60 that is double cardin and we gettin a new shaft made 2day, the bolt holes dont line up tho but just gunna knock out the stud on the t/case flange and redrill them 90degrees from the originals..

i have also notched the crossmember but the uni at the top binds b4 suspension reaches full droop so i still cant c if its gunna hit crossmemebr yet :roll: :roll:


if the top uni is binding it's possible you haven't rotated the diff pinion up enough? have you done a shackle reversal? (makes it even more difficult to get the angles good) if you're going to go with a double cardan shaft, use the hilux ones, they tolerate far more angle than the 60 series ones - don't remember the numbers but seem to think the hilux one is good for almost twice the angle of the 60 one.

cheers

Brian

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:26 am
by hypo
havent done a shackle reversal yet that will come later....

and yeah im pretty sure the uni we got is a luxy