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SAS, who's done it?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:26 am
by -Nemesis-
Okay, just wondering who here has SAS'd their Lux or 4Runner/Surf?
If so, tell us about it. Who did it? Happy with the job? Any recomendations for companies? etc etc

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:13 am
by ausyota
Im about to do it (in the next month or two).
Im going to do if my self with the help of a couple of my friends who are metal fabs and the knowledgable people on this board :)

I have heard that Overkill engineering do a good job at a good price for a driv in drive out SAS.
Paul.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:55 am
by mtx
Mate, PM Surfin Alec. He has done it on his LN130 surf (same as 4runner)
I think also HG has done it now as well or is about to.

Have a look over on www.toyotasurf.asn.au/forum and look at the search function. Alec has put a tech article up on how he has done it, how much etc.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:31 am
by Surfin Alec
Yep, Overkill SAS'ed my 94 Surf.
Good investment as I was going through front diffs every couple months. Should pay for itself in the very near future.
Sam did a great job on the conversion and I still can't stop grinning from ear to ear every time I go 4x4ing. I get the missus to drive occassionally just so I can grin at the flex it gets now. :armsup:

You can view my conversion pics at:

http://groups.msn.com/toyotasurf/thesur ... lbumlist=2

I know another Surf who has had the exact same conversion done at Sam's also and he is also stoked with how it goes, after all he drove Winchbreak when everybody else (except Dan in the 40) could not. Included was some much more modified bigger trucks from this site.

Alec

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:28 pm
by hophoar
did mine by myself only took a weekend to chop everything off then hang the axle, driving it by Monday. Its pretty easy to do, read everything on Pirate and you can't go wrong.[img]http://au.msnusers.com/44svu8e8cclaij6295d5430q13/Documents/91%204runner%20RV6%2FImage002.JPG[img]

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:10 pm
by +dj_hansen+
HG surf is currently at Cheezy's getting 5 Link front and A Frame rear.
Dreama has also done one..

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:29 pm
by Madmac
hophoar wrote:did mine by myself only took a weekend to chop everything off then hang the axle, driving it by Monday. Its pretty easy to do, read everything on Pirate and you can't go wrong.[img]http://au.msnusers.com/44svu8e8cclaij6295d5430q13/Documents/91%204runner%[url[/img]
id like to have a go at doing mine myself, what needs to be changed steering wise? do you still use your original steering box etc etc.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:33 pm
by Madmac
ausyota wrote:Im about to do it (in the next month or two).
Im going to do if my self with the help of a couple of my friends who are metal fabs and the knowledgable people on this board :)

I have heard that Overkill engineering do a good job at a good price for a driv in drive out SAS.
Paul.
let us know how you go with it, i wouldnt mind having a go at doing it myself, i figure it would be heaps cheaper than $3500 at overkill, and any info on what you need would be good too, ie shock hoops, steering parts etc

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:19 pm
by hophoar
hi-luxmadness wrote:
id like to have a go at doing mine myself, what needs to be changed steering wise? do you still use your original steering box etc etc.[/quote]

You use the original IFS steering box and pitman arm with an adaptor or you can use a 80 series pitman, either make or buy your dropped hangers, shock hoops, shackles. Use an old set of hilux rear springs with a few leaves changed for the springs. and decide wether you want histeer or conventional crossover.
Use your ifs hubs with a ORI hubspacer kit to get the front the same width as the rear.

John

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:43 pm
by Madmac
hophoar wrote:
hi-luxmadness wrote:
id like to have a go at doing mine myself, what needs to be changed steering wise? do you still use your original steering box etc etc.


You use the original IFS steering box and pitman arm with an adaptor or you can use a 80 series pitman, either make or buy your dropped hangers, shock hoops, shackles. Use an old set of hilux rear springs with a few leaves changed for the springs. and decide wether you want histeer or conventional crossover.
Use your ifs hubs with a ORI hubspacer kit to get the front the same width as the rear.

John[/quote]thanks for that, im going to start gathering all the bits and pieces with a view to doing it early next year, any other tips and hints would be appreciated

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:43 pm
by Madmac
hophoar wrote:
hi-luxmadness wrote:
id like to have a go at doing mine myself, what needs to be changed steering wise? do you still use your original steering box etc etc.


You use the original IFS steering box and pitman arm with an adaptor or you can use a 80 series pitman, either make or buy your dropped hangers, shock hoops, shackles. Use an old set of hilux rear springs with a few leaves changed for the springs. and decide wether you want histeer or conventional crossover.
Use your ifs hubs with a ORI hubspacer kit to get the front the same width as the rear.

John[/quote]thanks for that, im going to start gathering all the bits and pieces with a view to doing it early next year, any other tips and hints would be appreciated

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:26 pm
by LUXon37s
I've done it and havent looked back

I done it myself with help from a mate all up it took 2 full days and thats with no experiance of anything this major, since doing that a mate of mine has done it and had the lot tacked in and waiting for a welder mate to finish it off in one day

We both used ORI's double flip arm and drag link with the pitman arm adaptor for the steering

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:26 pm
by 4sum4
I paid for mine but had heaps of problems and was to dangerous,and i`ve re done it and its all good now just playing with differant springs.
You can do it on a budget or you could spend heaps all depends if your using it as a daily driver or just for offroad.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:23 am
by Madmac
i found tonnes of excellent info on pirate 4x4 and also full instructions on marlin crawlers website, marlin sell a complete kit with everything you need, im going to send them an email and get a price on it :D

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:31 am
by ausyota
Snake racing here in aus also sells a SAS kit.
Paul.