Page 1 of 1

vitara rigid front susp.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:58 am
by y0di
does anyone know of rfs conversions done to vitaras in brisbane? yeah just like celias. also been toying with the idea of fitting grand vite steel rims to my 92 lwb. the 5 spoke alloy look rims 16", any ideas?? like to keep it all suzi. :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:39 am
by Black_TJ
For SAS on the front the man (or Boy) to talk to in Bris is Antt.... Hes been toying with that idea for a long time..... Has done a fair bit of resarch on it...

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:51 am
by 1MadEngineer
if you are really serious and have the money to actually do it than PM me for full details. Although i would reccommend putting a d30 out of a tj in it, then at least you keep the zuk pattern, and lockers and chromo axles are available.

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:52 am
by grimbo
bolt pattern on a TJ is different than on a Suzuki. The older wranglers had the same bolt pattern

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:05 pm
by antt
who cares about the bolt pattern when you cant get a ratio to match the rear vit axle anyway....well i haven't found anywhere to get a matching ratio in either a 30 or 44 to match the vit rear (auto or man). i would like to be proven wrong on this cause it could make thiings a whole lot easier than swapping out both ends like i intend to do once i get my home brew kicker3 sorted out.

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:24 pm
by Gonzo
Chatting with Same @ Overkill Engineering it seems the price on the dana 30 based suzanna axles are coming down to a reasonable price

same ratio, same stud pattern...

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:12 pm
by Black_TJ
Why not just bite the bullet and replace both with hilux diff and axels... stronger better ratio selection???

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:28 pm
by antt
thats the plan ;)

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:25 pm
by 1MadEngineer
stop talking about it and just do it! :lol:

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:35 pm
by antt
when i'm working full time and getting some decent $$$'s :cry: ....hopefully only a few weeks away when uni finishes.....

i do have a spare chassis from my front cut sitting around doing nothing, so am gonna work it all out on that, then swap it into mine ;)

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:19 pm
by 1MadEngineer
cool :lol:
will be good to see!
a vitara with flex?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:19 pm
by antt
strength and rampover angle moreso than flex are the main priorities

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:15 pm
by SAWZALL
Flex is gonna be an issue with a Vit as the front can't tuck real well if you run decent sized tyres

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:02 pm
by stumped
ask gonzo how to fix that :twisted: :D

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:12 pm
by Beastmavster
Mine tucked ok with 31"s and a little front guard "encouragement". I was running very low lift though for stability and big offset rims.

Standard offset sierra rims would have meant less trimming and bashing.

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:18 pm
by Gonzo
stumped wrote:ask gonzo how to fix that :twisted: :D



:armsup:

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:43 am
by antt
i reckon it'll be able to tuck a 35 fine with the axle a few inches forward ;)

$$$$$$$$$$

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:25 pm
by y0di
tell me what sort of $$$$'s we're talking about for rfs conversion with a sierra front diff, and how much $$$$ for front and back hilux convert???

is the latter legal in Qld??? we can't modify the track of the vehicle here.

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:13 pm
by Beastmavster
Hilux track is within 5mm of Vitara track so it's pretty easy for that sort of variation to get approved.

You're allowed within 50mm I believe is the normal standard when rims are taken in to account.

Biggest problem is gearing since most Luxes are 4.3 diffs. Even 4.88 is a step backwards from a Vitara's 5.12 diff centres. You can buy Lux R&P up to at least 5.73 which would be a 10% improvement.

Otherwise a vitara/sierra dual tcase will fix this nicely :D

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:26 pm
by antt
Beastmavster wrote:Hilux track is within 5mm of Vitara track so it's pretty easy for that sort of variation to get approved.

You're allowed within 50mm I believe is the normal standard when rims are taken in to account.

Biggest problem is gearing since most Luxes are 4.3 diffs. Even 4.88 is a step backwards from a Vitara's 5.12 diff centres. You can buy Lux R&P up to at least 5.73 which would be a 10% improvement.

Otherwise a vitara/sierra dual tcase will fix this nicely :D


yes, yes it will ;)

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:28 pm
by SAWZALL
antt wrote:i reckon it'll be able to tuck a 35 fine with the axle a few inches forward ;)


Problem is that with a coil front end, when you tuck it moves even further forward. The headlight situation needs to be addressed on a Vit with 35's....unless you go for some monster lift.....