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Definition of a Diff, Axle, Housing......

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:05 am
by ToNkA
Well I know what they all are, but I see no uniformity when people talk about these items. So what does each term mean to you when you are talking about it, selling one etc.

"I busted my Diff"
One is talking about the internals of the differential.

"I have a Diff for sale"
One is talking about the crownwheel and spider gears.
But does it include the thirdmember/carrier, or the whole housing disc to disc?

Is the diff housing just the thirdmember/carrier or is is the axle housing aswell...

Ok, so you get my point.

So what do you use and what does it cover?

Feel free to crap on....

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:22 am
by GRIMACE
hmm never really though about that, but if I start hering the word housing I assume its the whole external section :lol: diff/axle housing.


But yeah alot of times you speak of stuff re diffs/axle and other people take it in differently :D

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:03 pm
by planb
this use to shit me big time, having to write this stuff in mags. the sub editors never understood the difference between a diff and an axle housing and an axle tube and an axle :x

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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:25 pm
by lowndsie
Umm Whats a diff?????

:drinking:

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:31 pm
by dumbdunce
they way I use the terms - feel free to disagree:

diff, differential: on its own does not really describe anything, needs to be used in conjuction with another term to complete its definition eg:

differential (or final drive) crownwheel and pinion, or ring and pinion: the big gears in a diff that do the driving and provide the final drive ratio.

differential spider gears; planet gears: the little gears that run on the cross shaft(s) in the carrier

differential side gears, sun gears: the bigger little hears that are attached to the axle shafts

differential carrier: the bit that the crownwheel is bolted to, that the side and spider gears live inside, the bit you replace when you fit a detroit or airlocker.

differential centre housing: the third member case that the pinion and carrier are attached to by bearings.

differential centre: the complete third member assembly including gears and carrier

other related terms:

third member: the detatchable, removable differential assembly in banjo axle setups. salisbury type axles do not have a detatchable tird member. Interchangeable with "differential centre"

axle: on its own, is indeterminate and needs to be qualified along the lines of:

axle shaft: the shaft that transmits drive from the side gears to the hub

axle housing: the steel tube with a bulge in the middle that you bolt the third member to (banjo type) or including the centre housing (salisbury type). the axle shafts go inside.


pinion bearings: the tapered roller bearings supporting the pinion shaft

carrier bearings: the tapered roller bearings supporting the carrier


NOTE: some publications interchange the terms "centre" and "carrier", eg haynes manuals name them one way, gregorys the other.

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:11 pm
by dow50r
Heres a few more...
Hemisphere being the centre of the diff with the sungears in it.
Pumpkin...being the bulge in the diff housing that the rocks always hit.
Third member....could mean anything??
Andrew

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:36 pm
by J Top
Third Member ?
Jake the Peg, one for you aussies
J Top

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:51 pm
by Croz
ahhhh... same diff.... :finger:

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:43 am
by ludacris
Diff to me means the whole lot from Disc to Disc.

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:53 am
by Wooders
ludacris wrote:Diff to me means the whole lot from Disc to Disc.

Ditto....
Unless it's qualified by subsequent: Centre, housing, gears etc....
Just "diff" to me says WMS2WMS.....

Busted my diff - could be bent the housing or damaged internals....untils it's qualified - it's just saying the Diff in it's entirity is busted ;)

Simple...... :D :finger:

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:58 am
by ludacris
Ditto.... :? :?:

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:32 pm
by -Mick-
ludacris wrote:Ditto.... :? :?:


Means likewise/ the same again. I like naked women, you say 'ditto'

From the greek dittamus :D

I made that last bit up

:finger:

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:37 pm
by ludacris
ahh. :oops:

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:50 pm
by glen1n
so next time someone gets hung up on a rock, i should properly state "ITS YOUR PUMPKIN MATE!!!"

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:57 pm
by GRIMACE
No you have to state that its his DIFF pumkin

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:59 pm
by ToNkA
ludacris wrote:Ditto.... :? :?:


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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:21 pm
by glen1n
AnthonyP wrote:No you have to state that its his DIFF pumkin


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:05 pm
by mkpatrol
The correct term is final drive assembly.

Diff is slang for what it does which is allow a differential in axle speeds for cornering.

Pinions, crownwheels, axles etc are all parts of the assembly.

Correct me if I am wrong :D