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URGENT: What shocks for this car?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:12 pm
by coke
OK, I have decided that I will be investing in new front shocks this week. I am just after some advice/thoughts.
I am running the car that you can see in my sig below. Front coils are Kings 6" and rears are dobinsons 6" with a 1" spacer and Rancho 5 way shocks.
I am deciding between the toughdog 9 ways, the Rancho 9 ways and the Procomp non adjustables for $160. Aparently the adjustable Procomps have been recalled (so the local bloke told be).
What are the main reasons I would go or an adjustable on the front. I understand the rears is a good idea cos I tow my camper trailer and like having the ability to go harder.
Andrew
Re: URGENT: What shocks for this car?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:47 pm
by bogged
coke wrote:OK, I have decided that I will be investing in new front shocks this week. I am just after some advice/thoughts.
I am running the car that you can see in my sig below. Front coils are Kings 6" and rears are dobinsons 6" with a 1" spacer and Rancho 5 way shocks.
I am deciding between the toughdog 9 ways, the Rancho 9 ways and the Procomp non adjustables for $160. Aparently the adjustable Procomps have been recalled (so the local bloke told be).
What are the main reasons I would go or an adjustable on the front. I understand the rears is a good idea cos I tow my camper trailer and like having the ability to go harder.
Andrew
1) Ranchos suck on big heavy 4b's. Mine died 3 times - I gave up.
2) Procomp recalled?? if so why would yuo consider them
3) Tough Dogs - had a real bad name few yrs back, dont know if they are any different.
4) KONI... or OMEs.
WIth the adjustable, you run them on hard most of the road time anyway, so you dont really have the choice. Poly Airs IF you can get them to fit the springs would fix your adjustable issue.
Go with Konis or even OME's.
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:08 pm
by hotrod4x4
Rancho's r fine
absolutely nothin wrong with them
i've had them for yrs on various vehicles without issues
and they work fine on big heavy 4b's
dont forget they come from a country full of big heavy 4b's
i'm not biased to them
people r going to have good and bad stories about basically any manufacturer
only thing with rancho's
if u go the long travel 9012's
they're originally designed to run in a dual shock setup
so if used in a patrol rear etc , u will tend to run them firm
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:32 pm
by bogged
hotrod4x4 wrote:Rancho's r fine
absolutely nothin wrong with them
i've had them for yrs on various vehicles without issues
and they work fine on big heavy 4b's
dont forget they come from a country full of big heavy 4b's
I know of 8 GQ dudes on the forum that have had nothing but problems, ossie on here with his GU had 3 sets if I remember, he also gave up on them.. and 2 shops that are into hard core mods also said they are a waste of time on big 4bs... we must have all been unlucky
They may come from a country of big heavy 4bs but that aint aussie conditions...
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:01 pm
by Daisy
And also..
anyone correct me on this??
Auto alliance refusing warranty on ranchos now on patrols and landcruisers (or was this a rumour?? )
TOM
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:15 pm
by ozy1
i was told they had stopped warrenty on all shocks suited for anything over a 2" lift,
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:16 pm
by bogged
GQ wrote:Auto alliance refusing warranty on ranchos now on patrols and landcruisers (or was this a rumour?? )
that is why I rid myself of them, the last set they wouldnt exchange...
Happy with OME LTR's front, and Nitrochargers in the china.
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:28 pm
by nischev
When i rang auto alliance to order ranchos for my 3" lifted gq they advised me against them as the new ones have a smaller bore or something than the old ones and cant handle the big vehicles such as patrol and cruiser anymore. I went dobinsons.
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:21 pm
by majti
Any thought on Tough dogs? I tend of buying them for my 4'' or 5'' lift.
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:39 pm
by coke
Guys,
sorry for the delay being out for the evening.
I was told of the Procomp Adjustable recall by a mob (reseller) in Brisbane this afternoon, as well as a local supplier. Apparently the issue is with the valving on the adjustables not being able to cope with corrugations.
One huge positive is that the guy has told me that I will have a lifetime warranty with them, as opposed to the mentioned rumours about Rancho warranties on lifted gear.
I will more than likely get these, and at half the price of the tough dogs, I will see if they cope. If not, I have not spent too much money on them. I have had 2 recommendations for them. The model number mentioned is ES9000, and I have been asked to measure my truck at full droop in the front to get the exact measurement right for the car. Also requested ride height.
Andrew
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:41 pm
by coke
One other thing, is anyone out there running Ralphs, and anyone know approx $ on these?
Andrew
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:53 pm
by Slug
GQ wrote:And also..
anyone correct me on this??
Auto alliance refusing warranty on ranchos now on patrols and landcruisers (or was this a rumour?? )

TOM

They better bloody not be ... I have just returned a set of which one totally destroyed itself in less than 1500 k`s. Based on Auto Alliances recomendation I bought a pair of RockCrawlers for the front of my GQ.
Missus drove into Alice to see me in hospital and said after driving 600 odd K`s ... "The trucks steering funny and making a clunking noise" Quick trip around to the local mechanics because I wasnt able to get out found this.....

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:21 am
by bogged
Slug wrote:Missus drove into Alice to see me in hospital and said after driving 600 odd K`s ... "The trucks steering funny and making a clunking noise" Quick trip around to the local mechanics because I wasnt able to get out found this.....
what was it hitting on?? I could see how they MAY say no warranty if its been bashing something... :(
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:46 am
by Slug
As near as I could tell, the shock had collapsed in the closed position which beat the mounts to death allowing it to tilt sideways inside the upper mount cage and cop the flogging you see pictured.
The mob that changed them out couldn't offer an explanation without suggesting valving may have crapped out

What I do know is that we had already done around 800k`s since I fitted them and then my partner drove some 600 k`s on it (without incident) thank god and secondly, that I am not that dumb I can't install a pair of shocks the right way up! Quite simply, the other shockie is fine so I can only assume something went wrong internally with that one.
Time will tell ...... they are on the way back to AA now.