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Beefing up IFS

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:37 am
by alrob
Ok, so i've gone IFS and not regretting it, and it seems to be ample for moderate off roading, and better for my highway driving, but i want to know what i can do to stregnthen and maybe give it a bit more travel it for when i am out on the hard offroad tracks.

EDIT: Rather then start a new topic, i'll include this question. i will probably need new set of tyres :cry: in a couple of months, and i'm running a 2.4 diesel. should i stick with 31's, or get 32's or 33's. what i'm worried about is how well the little diesel will be able to push bigger tyres

Re: Beefing up IFS

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:58 am
by ToNkA
alrob wrote:Ok, so i've gone IFS and not regretting it, and it seems to be ample for moderate off roading, and better for my highway driving, but i want to know what i can do to stregnthen and maybe give it a bit more travel it for when i am out on the hard offroad tracks.


SAS :D

Re: Beefing up IFS

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:00 am
by alrob
ToNkA wrote:
alrob wrote:Ok, so i've gone IFS and not regretting it, and it seems to be ample for moderate off roading, and better for my highway driving, but i want to know what i can do to stregnthen and maybe give it a bit more travel it for when i am out on the hard offroad tracks.


SAS :D


well, apart from offloading the 3 grand for an SAS! lol

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:24 am
by Madmac
ive got an ifs too, there is absolutely nothing you can do to to get any real increase in wheel travel, you can lift them a couple of inches, and you can cut down the bumpstops to gain about an inch more travel, im going to take the gas axe to my ifs and convert it to a solid axle set up wih leaf springs, ifs diffs are also weak as piss, ive blown 4 of em.

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:33 pm
by surfforyamum
hi ive put 2 in body lift in my surf and ive got 275/75x16 tyres on mine gose very good but ive got 2.4 lt turbo in mine

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:23 am
by ausyota
You wont notice much differance in power going to 32s but 33s do drag it down a bit.
What gears have you got in the diffs? Throw in some 4.88s to bring it back to stock gearing with 33s. That will help.
Paul.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:38 am
by bigpat
It's easy to get more droop from an IFS setup... install some top ball joint spacers. You can get 25mm thick (or thicker) aluminium, cut it to suit, and stick 'em in between the top wishbone and ball joint. Therefore for the same ride height, you can back off the torsion bars, which with cut bumpstops, will give you anywhere from 1-2" more droop.

Have a look at the Techsite section of the Toyota Surf forum, www.toyotasurf.asn.au which explains how to do it.

Cheers,

Pat

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:50 am
by Madmac
bigpat wrote:It's easy to get more droop from an IFS setup... install some top ball joint spacers. You can get 25mm thick (or thicker) aluminium, cut it to suit, and stick 'em in between the top wishbone and ball joint. Therefore for the same ride height, you can back off the torsion bars, which with cut bumpstops, will give you anywhere from 1-2" more droop.

Have a look at the Techsite section of the Toyota Surf forum, www.toyotasurf.asn.au which explains how to do it.

Cheers,

Pat
ive done this modification with the ball joint spacers, you have to put spacers under the diff too for it to work, its still not a big increase in wheel travel

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:25 pm
by HG
I did all these mods too and ran 35's on my Surf and got good wheel travel but in the end the only way to keep the treads on the ground was to get CHEEZY to SAS me up :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:
It's a beautifull thing and who cares about the cost ;) ...... start a SAS fund and start saving :D
Cheers
Andrew

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:43 pm
by benno_from_brizvegas
33's sucked hard on my 2.4 diesel lux until I put in some 4.88s. Might be different if you have a turbo... what are you driving?

cheers,
Benno

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:17 am
by alrob
benno_from_brizvegas wrote:33's sucked hard on my 2.4 diesel lux until I put in some 4.88s. Might be different if you have a turbo... what are you driving?

cheers,
Benno


a 4 runner. no turbo