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Vit crawler gears, suspension etc.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:30 pm
by cj
Just had Sam at Overkill put some crawler gears in the Vit and took it up to the High Country for a run on the weekend. Also had to try out the Calmini 3" suspension as well. So what did I think? :D :D :D
The auto doesn't run away anymore down wet, steep descents. In fact low first was so slow I was using D and from time to time 2. Climbs nicely too. Downside is no more 90 to 100 km/h in low :cry: more like 30 km/h so this is where duals wins but the plus is this is just a nice and simple install with no dramas and no more runaway auto downhills. Worth the money? :armsup: As for the Calmini, well it definately works better than the OME offroad but the OME was better on the road and with a load. The Calmini has a very soft spring rate. I'm running the OME struts with the Calmini Strut spacers :twisted: The difference the Calmini suspension and the crawler gears made was such that I was able to go places with the diffs open that previously I would have needed to use my lockers so I am very pleased with the setup. Just need to strengthen the front end now and sort out high range as it does struggle a bit on the open road with the 31's

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:56 pm
by cj
Oh yeah, and with the amount of rain around I got to justify putting a snorkel on the other day as I was giving the bonnet a good washing with all the river crossings. It was also nice to put the Simex Centipede M/T's to work in the mud. They've been good on the road wet and dry, in the snow, dirt roads and now mud. Seem to be a reasonable all rounder for the money and considering that they are not that aggressive with no side lugs. Would still like to look at something more aggressive for a second set down the line but the Vit is slowly becoming more capable given that it is IFS. Just need to work on the driver. :silly:

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:06 pm
by mudfkr
Cj,

What are the ratio's of your Crawlers and diffs ?

Any before and after pics of your suspension ? how much more would you say it articulates ?

I've just ordered the Calmini 4:24.1 and 3" suspension, I feel like a kid wait'in for Farkin Xmas wait'in for it to turn up :D

Shane

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:18 pm
by antt
good stuff cj, any chance of a $$$'s value for the gears (pm me if you like, i just want to do a comparison with my in-progress dual setup)

what are you gonna do about high range? calmini 5.83's are about the only thing i can think of :?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:35 pm
by Beastmavster
Dunno if the Richmond gears 5.38 are available in a Vitara rear... front is available.


Is cj starting off with 4.6? I thought LWB V6 usually means 4.6's so room to move.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:40 pm
by muppet_man67
so do you still want to run duels? hopefully my transfer case will be comeing out it the not to distant future :D

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:22 pm
by cj
At this stage I have no pics but maybe after the Club weekend. It definately articulates more but it's no SAS. I was happy with the price Sam gave me even though I could of saved a little doing it myself it is nice that someone who knows more than me has done the job. I haven't ruled out duals in the future but I want reliability and with the auto I also wanted gearing now. 5.83's are looking like the most likely route with an Anvil and Kerry Wittigs new TORA TORA axles but $$$. A dual setup using a coily t-case would be ideal if it can be built right. Come on Antt I want to see how yours turns out.

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:01 pm
by Dick
So with the crawlers in, what gears are you using on medium / hard hills ?? as compared to LOW all the time as they come std !
Are these local gears or imported ?? very interested in getting some..
Thanx

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:38 pm
by christover1
It all loooks great "in the flesh", can't wait to see it "at work" on the weekend ... I'm getting soft, these vit things are lookin better every day :)
christover

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:03 am
by cj
Dick wrote:So with the crawlers in, what gears are you using on medium / hard hills ?? as compared to LOW all the time as they come std !
Are these local gears or imported ?? very interested in getting some..
Thanx


Dick, I'm running an auto so D works just fine and on the odd occasion i knocked it back to 2. 1 is way low, damn near came to a stop. As the weekend test in the High Country wasn't really about going hard but we did a couple of good descents and climbs in the wet that would of been real interesting without the gears I am very happy with my decision.
I feel I have gained more control. Talk to Sam at Overkill for more details on the gears.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:57 am
by Mudzuki
christover1 wrote:I'm getting soft, these vit things are lookin better every day :)
christover


Vits are :cool: :cool:

Sierras are :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:36 pm
by Charlie
Beastmavster wrote:Dunno if the Richmond gears 5.38 are available in a Vitara rear... front is available.


Is cj starting off with 4.6? I thought LWB V6 usually means 4.6's so room to move.


I emailed a US supplier about 5.38 listed on the web for Vitara and received no reply but they were deleted from their site so I guess that means no.
Regards Charlie

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:41 pm
by Charlie
Dick wrote:So with the crawlers in, what gears are you using on medium / hard hills ?? as compared to LOW all the time as they come std !
Are these local gears or imported ?? very interested in getting some..
Thanx

Gear ratios for a manual V6 Vitara are 3.652,1.947,1.379,1.000 and 0.759. Rockhoppers are 120% lower whatever than means.I would be great to get some and try secong gear for a change.
Regards Charlie