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				relacement TIE ROD
				Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:16 pm
				by thunder
				ive bent my cro moly TIE  ROD last week and would like some suggestions
for a replacment that is STRONGER than this.
i know i can bend it back and may be ok but it wont last and i have a standard tie rod to put on for now..im after something that will take some punishment...
for a nissan gu ute with 35s
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:20 pm
				by De-lux
				and also for a LN106 hilux. (mine is bent also)
			 
			
					
				Re: relacement TIE ROD
				Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:03 pm
				by Daisy
				thunder wrote:ive bent my cro moly TIE  ROD last week and would like some suggestions
for a replacment that is STRONGER than this.
i know i can bend it back and may be ok but it wont last and i have a standard tie rod to put on for now..im after something that will take some punishment...
for a nissan gu ute with 35s
Shoot me a PM on what brand it was if you dont want to say it in here (the bent cro moly one)
TOM
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:07 pm
				by thunder
				sent pm
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:49 pm
				by A1
				Steve      .............HYPO   has also bent  a couple of tierods into pretzels   since gettin the Q axles unda the lux      we had  some made up outta 33.4 x 6.35 seamless  as we hoped it would deflect enough qnd return b4 it bent    ..............UM wrong    
        
Since then   I sold my seamless arm to him and we sleeved  it with some 4mm  thick pipe  bout 42-44 od from memory   he ran this at the TRIALS  and has also done a few trips round our way it has a few marks ova it and at worst i would say it has a VERY slight bend    ..........    
His truck copped a canning  also ova the weekend as im sure yours did 2  

      and  so far ,so good    .....
I have gone 1 step further  by gettin  the same made up but outta 33.4 x 9.01 seamless which i then sleeved with the same tube as we did HYPOS    ...mine will prob last longer  cause  my tierod  clears MACCAS speed humps   so i have no chance of bending it id say  LOL   ..........
We are also  using the larger internal threaded Tierod ends   as u would have   as standard ...............
cheers  Dan
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:59 pm
				by bubs
				CORE, Richard at 4x4 engineering is a dealer his number is 07 3344 1181
I can vouch for the hilux one 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:02 pm
				by De-lux
				bubs wrote:CORE, Richard at 4x4 engineering is a dealer his number is 07 3344 1181
I can vouch for the hilux one 

 
where can i get my hands on this (phone number is possible) and if anyone has a price i would also appreciate it.
cheers
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:22 pm
				by TUFFRANGIE
				De-lux wrote:bubs wrote:CORE, Richard at 4x4 engineering is a dealer his number is 07 3344 1181
I can vouch for the hilux one 

 
where can i get my hands on this 
 (phone number is possible)  and if anyone has a price i would also appreciate it.
cheers
 
I cant believe you asked that, read bubs post
07 33441181
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:44 pm
				by De-lux
				
 its late, and im half asleep. my bad. did i mention im also dyslexic?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: relacement TIE ROD
				Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:28 am
				by big red
				thunder wrote:ive bent my cro moly TIE  ROD last week and would like some suggestions
for a replacment that is STRONGER than this.
i know i can bend it back and may be ok but it wont last and i have a standard tie rod to put on for now..im after something that will take some punishment...
for a nissan gu ute with 35s
i bend my double chrome moly one as well and sometimes bend the tie rod ends.
if it was any stronger you will bend the tie rod ends more often.
If you fit the GQ ute tie rod ends to a new tie rod and get the tapers machined out to suit it should be a lot better.
thats my next move ... might be able to go triple chrome moly then  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:30 am
				by 80UTE
				I made mine from 32mm 4140 (Cr-Mo) solid and drilled a 20mm hole through the guts. I had made some from hollow bar as decribed by others but this is a mild steel and its yield strenght is that of mild steel and wont return to its orginal shape when deflected much. 4140 has a much higher yeild point so it can deflect a lot further before it is bent beyond it yeild point and wont return to it original shape. I bent 5 other track rods untill i made the 4140 and have not had a prob since.
Wally
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:27 pm
				by fatassgq
				If you don't mind me asking why did you drill the hole through the middle of the solid bar???
Must have been some good equipment.
I have a solid 4140 tie rod and got it machined to suit ute tie rods with the internal thread. For my use I think it will be fine
I have a feeling that the hole through the middle is to allow more flex before bending/cracking... but just wanted to know for sure.
cheers
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:35 pm
				by Wooders
				What length and threads are these?
We have 38mm alloy flexi tie rods.....they will bend upto 20cm and return to straight......The manufacturer has advised me that if you can bend it they replace for free.....
Tempting??
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:34 pm
				by 4sum4
				fatassgq wrote:If you don't mind me asking why did you drill the hole through the middle of the solid bar???
Must have been some good equipment.
I have a solid 4140 tie rod and got it machined to suit ute tie rods with the internal thread. For my use I think it will be fine
I have a feeling that the hole through the middle is to allow more flex before bending/cracking... but just wanted to know for sure.
cheers
 
 he is talking about the ends not in the middle as in centre
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:27 am
				by Rosey
				how are you guys bending these tie rods? on rocks and logs?
Is there any way you can put a spacer in to get your tie rod any higher? Would it be possible to make a guard which mounts off your diff to protect the tie rod? surely we can get around the bandaid fixes and eliminate the problem.
just a thought
cheers
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:43 pm
				by Macca177
				i use ORI(Chaos4x4) ones and they are sweet hit heaps of shit and still dont bend... hes at silverwater sydney.... im sure his patrol are just as good. give them a call... 97481116