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5speed to fit 82 hilux

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:13 pm
by oldhilux
have just got a 5speed out of a 84 hilux 2.4 diesel to replace the 4speed in my 82 hilux 2.2 diesel will this bolt straight in without to much hassle ? I've also got a set of extractors off the same will they fit my 2.2 ?



Thanks Mike

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:46 pm
by 83 lux
no way mate the only way to change a 4 speed 2.2 to a 5 speed is to get the 5 speed box off a 83 hiace and change the inners there is no posable way that i know you can change it that easy the method above works and i will do it as soon as i can find a 5 speed 83 hiace very few around but it is very possable that way. all i can say is i hope you did get r@ped paying for the 2.4 box. :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:53 pm
by RUFF
The late box is an easy swap you will need the late front tailshaft and then you will need to move your gearbox crossmember back on the chassie about 100mm and shorten the rear shaft. Other than that it will bolt right up. You may need to replace the clutch to suit the 5sp but i am pretty sure they are the same. The gearsticks even come out in the right place.
The hiace box is a piece of crap that is prone to failure.

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:57 pm
by Surfection
all i can say is i hope you did get r@ped paying for the 2.4 box.



That't not vewy nice !!! :shock:

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:12 am
by bj on roids
im with ruff, its do-able but costs a few bucks in shafts and moving your crossmember, easy enough, heaps easier than doing a cruiser!

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:02 pm
by Webbie
Mike
it may be an option that u havent yet xplored , its a supra box there not that xpensive $350+ but u do have to buy a conversion kit $700 +, get your shafts redone and move xmember and finally cut a hole in floor for the shifter ,but well worth it.
There 25% stronger than standard boxs and come in three different gear ratios and bear in mind that they put em behind 350 chevs so they a pretty tough.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 7:44 am
by RUFF
So for $1050 you end up with the identical box as if you bought a Hilux W56 for $500 complete with Tcase and shifters. :roll:

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 3:41 pm
by oldhilux
Thanks gtwebbie but i aiready have the 5speed

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 12:32 pm
by dumbdunce
I am surpirsed that the 2.4 and 2.2 have different bolt patterns etc, they are the same engine family (L, 2L). you guys who say it won't fit, *why* doesn't it fit?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:28 pm
by RUFF
dumbdunce wrote:I am surpirsed that the 2.4 and 2.2 have different bolt patterns etc, they are the same engine family (L, 2L). you guys who say it won't fit, *why* doesn't it fit?


Nobody said they were different bolt patterns. They are not. And Scott '83lux was only going on what some other jackass told him :roll:

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:43 pm
by dumbdunce
darn them talking jackasses!

so does it fit, or not? if not, why not?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:58 pm
by RUFF
As i said in my first post YES it fits with some mods.

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 5:38 pm
by 83 lux
so will help me change it tony :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 6:19 pm
by bubs
scott if i am going to make you a high clearance cross member why dont i make you one like the one below to adapt you chassis to a later model 5 speed :wink:

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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:09 pm
by 83 lux
i think that we need to talk about this some more
:twisted:

drive it buddy

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:40 pm
by oldhilux
have had the 5speed in for 2 weeks now. A few headaches getting the box in but what difference it has made so much smoother & quieter just need to tidy up the new crossmember mounts to get it certifed

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 4:32 pm
by 83 lux
how the hell did you do it info please

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 6:11 pm
by RUFF
He just unbolted the 4 spd and bolted the 5spd in and then made some new brackets on the chassie to hold the X-member. Then had the rear tailshaft shortened.

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 8:47 pm
by oldhilux
The box bolted up without to much trouble. gear sticks even come up in original position; only 1 bellhousing bolt doesn't line up. you need to move the crossmember back about 140mm & shorten the rear driveshaft & use the yoke from the later model driveshaft as the bolt pattern on the gearbox flange is different. you need to use the front driveshaft from a LN65 with the front yoke from your old front shaft you'll also need a speedo cable from a LN65 as your's will be to short you'll also need a slave cylinder from a LN65 as the bolt holes won't line up with the ones on the new bellhousing { you may be able to drill these out to fit } You'll need to do body lift first because the 5speed is a bigger box & hits the top of the transmission tunnel. If theres anything else you want to know PM me


MIKE

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:46 pm
by 83 lux
how long did it take you and were did you get info

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 6:47 pm
by oldhilux
Did it over a weekend.with lots of beer; could do it in a day if you got stuck into it. Ruff & BJ told me it would fit & i found out the rest as i went


MIKE