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Buying new GU 3L..negotiating with Nissan on aftermarket....

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:34 pm
by mabsydney
I'm trying to decide whether I can afford to buy a new Patrol next year instead of second hand.

Has anyone managed to negotiate with Nissan to get decent tyres, aftermarket suspension fitted on a new vehicle instead of the stock gear? I mean they would be saving on the tyres I don't want and the stock suspension can be fitted to another vehicle.......do you reckon I would be able to get a reduction on the cost of the after market gear using that argument???

thanx,

Martin

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:29 pm
by BigMav
I doubt it but no harm in asking right. :)

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:55 am
by ludacris
I have heard of it being done champ. Dont just try one nissan yard though.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:25 am
by AJ
Dealers will fit anything legal if you pay them. If there are warranty implications then you may have to sign something.

Most people drive straight from the dealer to the local tyre store or accessory shop and get everything done there. Why pay the dealer a margin on top of retail prices? Having said that, the way I did it was to shop around until I had the best price on a standard vehicle and then negotiated with that dealer for the extras.

Always know the best prices you can get the accessories/tyres for before negotiating with the dealer.

Hope this helps

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:04 am
by ludacris
Why not the TD 4.2. Even if you have to get one with a little extra KM's.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:49 am
by mabsydney
thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:26 pm
by bundyrum4x4
ludacris wrote:Why not the TD 4.2. Even if you have to get one with a little extra KM's.


wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:04 pm
by patrolman
bundyrum4x4 wrote:wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.


we dont regret it anymore :twisted: ;)

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:56 pm
by bundyrum4x4
patrolman wrote:
bundyrum4x4 wrote:wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.


we dont regret it anymore :twisted: ;)


But, if you had the choice, what engine would you like them to fit, the 3ltr :cool: , or the 4.2 :twisted:

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:58 pm
by bundyrum4x4
mabsydney wrote:thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...


Maybe thats becouse those with the 4.2 dont want to sell them ;)

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:59 pm
by patrolman
bundyrum4x4 wrote:
patrolman wrote:
bundyrum4x4 wrote:wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.


we dont regret it anymore :twisted: ;)


But, if you had the choice, what engine would you like them to fit, the 3ltr :cool: , or the 4.2 :twisted:



what do you think? :twisted:

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:14 pm
by bundyrum4x4
patrolman wrote:
bundyrum4x4 wrote:
patrolman wrote:
bundyrum4x4 wrote:wait and get a 4.2. Everyone I know who has got the 3ltr has regretted it.


we dont regret it anymore :twisted: ;)


But, if you had the choice, what engine would you like them to fit, the 3ltr :cool: , or the 4.2 :twisted:



what do you think? :twisted:


Rest my case :D

Re: Buying new GU 3L..negotiating with Nissan on aftermarket

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:49 am
by morkz
mabsydney wrote:I'm trying to decide whether I can afford to buy a new Patrol next year instead of second hand.

Has anyone managed to negotiate with Nissan to get decent tyres, aftermarket suspension fitted on a new vehicle instead of the stock gear? I mean they would be saving on the tyres I don't want and the stock suspension can be fitted to another vehicle.......do you reckon I would be able to get a reduction on the cost of the after market gear using that argument???

thanx,

Martin


hey

when i bought my patrol i got i tried to get a bit of stuff fitted predelivery

changed tyres to 35" MTRS (315/75/16) +$500 (dealer did a bit of mistake was meant to be around $950)

Suspension OME LTR's around $1700 fitted with coils

rear kaymar bar with swing away $2000

not sure if that was exactly what u were looking for

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:41 am
by mabsydney
morkz, yeah thats the kind of thing im looking for, thanx it helps...

others......the 3L/4.2L debate could run for ever I think! Points taken though.......hard to make the decision!

can't wait to get a patrol.......at least then my cape york trip will be in comfort.....don't fancy that trip in the defender!

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:44 am
by bogged
mabsydney wrote:thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...

There are reasons behind that.... why sell something good?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:38 am
by XFACTOR
bogged wrote:
mabsydney wrote:thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...

There are reasons behind that.... why sell something good?


The 4.2 only just got released...we only got ours last thursday..

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:07 am
by patrolman
XFACTOR wrote:
bogged wrote:
mabsydney wrote:thanx for replies, guess ill just go and talk to them...ludacris......i dont see many late model 4.2L for sale......compared to 3L there are hardly any...

There are reasons behind that.... why sell something good?


The 4.2 only just got released...we only got ours last thursday..



i think he is talking about the older models :D

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:43 am
by bogged
mabsydney wrote:others......the 3L/4.2L debate could run for ever I think! Points taken though.......hard to make the decision!!

No its not! There is no easier decision on the planet

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:29 pm
by mabsydney
bogged wrote:No its not! There is no easier decision on the planet


...there is...it comes down to money in the end and the 4.2L is more expensive

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:01 pm
by XFACTOR
mabsydney wrote:
bogged wrote:No its not! There is no easier decision on the planet


...there is...it comes down to money in the end and the 4.2L is more expensive


ok, if it's a shopping trolley, settle for the 3 litre...
If it will be used off road get the 4.2...alot better!

Try Interstate

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:25 am
by Not For Highway Use
Martin
I bought a coil cab new in 2002 from Ferntree Gully Nissan near Melb. Came with front locker, koni's, ARB bar and rails, winch, compressor etc. No problem. For $80 you can get a flight down and drive home!!! I paid about $53k on the road includeing extras which was rec retail for the truck at the time.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:35 am
by bogged
mabsydney wrote:...there is...it comes down to money in the end and the 4.2L is more expensive

Theres a reason for that.. you pay for what you get.



Poor people cant afford cheap things.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:26 am
by morkz
mabsydney wrote:
...there is...it comes down to money in the end and the 4.2L is more expensive


I dont understand why your going to the 3l you had defender, arent u going to a patrol for reliability.

If your going bush go the 4.2 in the end it will be cheaper as 3L parts are more expensive.

the reason why i say all this i had disco and yes they were fine around town but pure reliablity was the main cause and it ruinied many trips. Thats why it was easier to choose a 4.2.

Even if you buy GU 4.2 non turbo and turbo it yourself you would be better.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:42 am
by mabsydney
Not for highway use........that sounds promising.....thats what I'm looking for a good deal on the whole package.

Morkz........I'm changing to a Patrol for reliablility and comfort. So many people are putting me off the 3L.... I guess I just like the 3L on paper, but you're right I want a solid reliable truck that I can keep for 10 years or so....

One of my biggest gripes with the defender is the throttle surge....very hard to control at low speed....I want to be rid of that for sure

So 4.2L.......mmmm.....I can see the arguments....

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:31 pm
by bundyrum4x4
mabsydney wrote:
I'm changing to a Patrol for reliablility and comfort. So many people are putting me off the 3L.... I guess I just like the 3L on paper, but you're right I want a solid reliable truck that I can keep for 10 years or so....



So 4.2L.......mmmm.....I can see the arguments....



:armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup: :armsup:

You will thank us all later for this

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:19 pm
by mabsydney
haha........you may be right.....ill let you know when i buy....next year someitme

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:57 pm
by morkz
mabsydney wrote:haha........you may be right.....ill let you know when i buy....next year someitme


oh u will.........

when u go away with mates and they have 3L and the 3L start to shit themselves you'll be thankful that you have the 4.2 :armsup:

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:30 pm
by toughnut
There is also a very good reason why the cab chassis' only come with the 4.2L. Thats because it's a reliable work horse of an engine. :D

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:41 pm
by Mark2
One thing to keep in mind is that you pay stamp duty on the total invoice price. If you get a good deal on the accessories you want then no problem. But the usual dealer stuff like tinting, paint and fabric protection, crap accessories etc which is just cream for them is a ripoff.

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:40 pm
by morkz
Mark2 wrote:One thing to keep in mind is that you pay stamp duty on the total invoice price. If you get a good deal on the accessories you want then no problem. But the usual dealer stuff like tinting, paint and fabric protection, crap accessories etc which is just cream for them is a ripoff.


i totally agree on that type shit do that part yourself :cool: