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While Cheezy has the Jabber I asked him to fit some rock sliders and they look awesome. These will also be used as air tanks.
He has measured up the Paj so he knows whats required (mine has a 2" body lift). Cheezy Racing - 9762 9032

Could you get more pics of those sliders, under, side-view and mounting pics. I'm in the process of getting the right style slider on mine also. Those look good and strong. Everything is looking good.

BTW, I hope you're taking lots of pics of all the cool stuff going on under there. Hope everything goes well, good luck!

later,
Angelo

Hey those look familiar - Look similar to Augies design...

I like what Augie did. Used a lighter square tube under the rocker then reinforced for rigidity with an even lighter round tube, which also protects a little from the side and serves as a step.

I own the vehicle now...some pics here: http://philiplandowski.com/v-web/gallery/album30?page=1

I like how you're just giving us little bit shots of your ride Frank. It only elevates the anticipation to the exploding point

If someone needs the specs on the tubing I can dig it up.

Yep it's very close now........................
I'm looking foward to the ramp shots

are they gonna rust?

They are powder coated black so unless the coating is scratched enough to expose the base metal. I think he uses pressure piping as well which has a corrosion resistant coating as is.

Bretwalda, those sliders are inforced pretty darn good. Great shots. I figured after damaging my underbody a little and puttin some good-sized dents under the doors, it was about time to start looking. Thinking about the same design but on my model, the body bows outward near the back door so I would have to angle the slider outward to keep it straight with the body outline. Looks cool ! How are they holding up. Would you do anything different?

BTW- just from looking at the pics, I can tell you dont get too many passenagers, hope they dont think you're crazy or something when you wheel.

Frank, cant wait to see what you've done with that Pajero.

later,
Angelo

99Montero wrote:
BTW- just from looking at the pics, I can tell you dont get too many passenagers, hope they dont think you're crazy or something when you wheel.

Frank, cant wait to see what you've done with that Pajero.

later,
Angelo

He hasnt driven it for months. And the susp/sliders etc are all in teh process of being done.
Pretty sure this is correct.
p/s Cheezy hurry up the kids are gettting restless and want to see this thing.

Hey Angelo, yeah all the back seat passengers are little people - they have to be hoisted in

Yes there is a few things I'd do different - as far as lateral stiffness (along the length of the slider) there is NO flex. But there is flex at the weld to the frame. My plan is to weld a C channel onto the top of the arms and the end of it to the frame. Hopefully that'll beef it up. I can still lift it on the jack but its a little scary. I probably would have welded the arms to a plate instead of directly to the frame as well.

Yep very few frames are thick enough to prevent flexing when under load.
Mine have thick plates welded onto the chassis as mounting blocks and the slider mounts are bolted through these and the frame rail (4 bolts each).
These do not flex..................................

Bitsamissin wrote:Yep very few frames are thick enough to prevent flexing when under load.
Mine have thick plates welded onto the chassis as mounting blocks and the slider mounts are bolted through these and the frame rail (4 bolts each).
These do not flex..................................

Any pics of this theory?

Thats acctually a pretty good idea, both frank and bret. I was thinking to mount the slider directly under the body panel, resting the slider up underneath the body panel. My question is, do you guys think it would move much when the slider is on top of something full load or should I leave atleast 1/2" of space between the slider and the body panel? My theory is that the body panel is somewhat strong. If you extend the long square tubing across the bottom of the body panel, when it hits, it should absorb the hit through out the whole slider evenly with no movement at all if its resting up against the body panel itself and bolted on strong, then you shouldnt have any lateral flex? Right

later,
Angelo

99Montero wrote:

Bitsamissin wrote:Yep very few frames are thick enough to prevent flexing when under load.
Mine have thick plates welded onto the chassis as mounting blocks and the slider mounts are bolted through these and the frame rail (4 bolts each).
These do not flex..................................

Any pics of this theory?

Thats acctually a pretty good idea, both frank and bret. I was thinking to mount the slider directly under the body panel, resting the slider up underneath the body panel. My question is, do you guys think it would move much when the slider is on top of something full load or should I leave atleast 1/2" of space between the slider and the body panel? My theory is that the body panel is somewhat strong. If you extend the long square tubing across the bottom of the body panel, when it hits, it should absorb the hit through out the whole slider evenly with no movement at all if its resting up against the body panel itself and bolted on strong, then you shouldnt have any lateral flex? Right

later,
Angelo

Even if the frame of your slider is strong enough to keep from flexing, your going to run into some problems by resting your slider all the way up against the door sill.

The main issue is that your slider is going to be hard mounted to the frame, but the body is suspended by the flexible body mounts. So the body will move and rub up against the slider when the rig is in motion. I think the body moves a lot more than we notice.

DougH wrote:
Even if the frame of your slider is strong enough to keep from flexing, your going to run into some problems by resting your slider all the way up against the door sill.

The main issue is that your slider is going to be hard mounted to the frame, but the body is suspended by the flexible body mounts. So the body will move and rub up against the slider when the rig is in motion. I think the body moves a lot more than we notice.

Thats very true Doug. I see what your saying now. I knew the body would move a little, just didnt think about it at the time. But now that I think about it, even if I rest the slider under the door sill, whats the worst that could happen. Do I really need to allow it to be able to move when flexing?? I dont know what the worst that could happen, thats why i'm askin. Hope it didnt sound like i'm being a smart a$$

BTW- any pics Frank?

later,
Angelo

I'll be getting pics this week as the truck is almost finished now.
Yes the body will flex particularly if you have a body lift but if the sliders are spaced a bit off the sills then there is a little margin. These things are meant to spread any load over an area.
I bounced on a rock just under the drivers door last year and it popped the door ajar so much the dash light came on. I had to grind away some of the plastic panelling to get the door to shut properly so the dash light would go off. It was a fairly soft hit but sliders would have prevented damage for that. If your a foot in the air and crash down on a rock with the full weight of the truck even with properly set up sliders your probably gonna do some damage though.
Cheezy's sliders go on a lot of comp and hardcore trucks and his design is proven with dudes that drive much harder stuff than me so I've got total confidence in his product