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Different shocks
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:29 am
by Wolverine
Just wondering if anyone was using or had looked into using different shocks from other vehicles.
Have been looking at some commodore ones that look pretty long. Anyone else got any other suggestions.
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:52 pm
by Beastmavster
I used cressida ones, and landcruiser ones, and HQ ones. The cressida ones were by far the best in the Vitara.
Ask antt - he ditched his OME's to do the same.
Comes down to right length.... then right damping. Suprisingly enough I've always found all the new 4wd ones way overdamped as far as ride quality on bumps even the supposedly soft ones.
This doesnt mean that they're necessarily stiff enough to drive comfortably without swaybars either.
I guess that's a case for adjustable suspension.
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:24 pm
by Gwagensteve
I too have heard of HQ, VL, sigma and others being used. They are generally very soft and quite long, but can be too much of both.
They also tend to have short lives as in a 4wd application they get side loaded far more than in a car so they tend to die pretty quick, and the eyes are weak and can stretch.
They can be cool to play around with but I don't think car shocks are viable as a long term solution.
In any case you have to do the same amount of work to fit a car shock (longer mounts, different mount configurations, brake lines etcetc) than a 4X4 shock and OME N76's are about $125 each, longer than all of the common car shocks, at least as soft, and beefy enough to take the abuse. In at least one project on the go at the moment, they are getting nod over ranchos (either 9012's or 9112's) based on cost and performance.
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:05 am
by nicbeer
I used jackaroo and hilux shocks in mine but depends on the length needed.
cheers
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:21 am
by moose
celica rears in the front !!
&
Ford Explorer rears , in the rear !!
but like Gwagen (kind of) said ,
the stock car ones work well ,
but be prepared to replace about every 10-12 months !!
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:11 am
by ca18escort
moose,
Are those on std shock mounts?
Paul
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:43 am
by droopypete
ca18escort wrote:moose,
Are those on std shock mounts?
Paul
Paul, there is nothing standard on Moose's car
Peter.
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:45 am
by ljxtreem
droopypete wrote:ca18escort wrote:moose,
Are those on std shock mounts?
Paul
Paul, there is nothing standard on Moose's car
Peter.
Morning Fred
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:10 am
by droopypete
Morning Ralph
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:47 am
by ca18escort
Thanks for that guys, just trying to go budget with the zook until I can sell the Triton.
Paul
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:00 pm
by Beastmavster
Secret is gonna be getting something soft enough in a "4wd" manufacture to suit the lighter weight of the sierra.
Sure the OME's are gonna be right up there but at 4x the cost of a car type shock you can afford to replace more regularly or at least experiment a little.
The OME's or Ranchos wont last forever either, and by the time you bust a set of shocks you'll want to do something different and more radical with the car's suspension anyway IMHO. I think 4 years on the ranchos would be just as stuffed as your 4th set of commodore shocks.
Replacing shocks is also gonna be dependant on driving style and I'd say that moose would be a good example of how to break things
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:13 am
by moose
fronts are still standard mount !!!
rears are up & inwards !!
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:15 am
by ca18escort
Thanks moose that wa the info that I was chasing. Just got to get mine regoed so I can start playing with extended shock mounts and stuff.
Paul
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:06 pm
by SAWZALL
Beastmavster wrote:I used cressida ones, and landcruiser ones, and HQ ones. The cressida ones were by far the best in the Vitara.
Ask antt - he ditched his OME's to do the same.
Comes down to right length.... then right damping. Suprisingly enough I've always found all the new 4wd ones way overdamped as far as ride quality on bumps even the supposedly soft ones.
This doesnt mean that they're necessarily stiff enough to drive comfortably without swaybars either.
I guess that's a case for adjustable suspension.
which model cressida shocks do you guys use?
shocks
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:11 pm
by Pinball
i run koni rebuildables..
alfa in the front and celica rear.. ithink....
city suspension at springwood sourced em for me years ago....
adjustable 2.
Spock