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Information regarding big body lifts, chassis modification

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:06 pm
by SRT910
Hi, as you can see I am new to the 4x4 scene, but i am not new to the performance car scene. I have built/building a street strip car but i have taken somewhat of an interest into small 4wd's, such as suzkies with huge lift and massive tyres. I have been browsing the net trying to find some information regarding exactly what is involved in doing a large body lift but i seem to find just alot of into on the normal "lift kits".

I want to build something along the lines of this car.

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the questions i have about doing something like this

Do you have any guides/information/books on how to set up the chassis with the leaf springs, how it is all done etc. What exactly is modifyed and what is left std. What aftermarket parts can be used, or is everything basically custom made?

What diffs are used, the ones in the pic look to be different as the track is so much bigger.

What chassis is the best to do for this type of modification? Is there any cars that this is just not possible to do, or is much more difficult then say another chassis.

I understand that this is not some few weekend job to complete, I understand that fully as i have been building my blubird for a few years now, doing basically all of it my self. (if you want to check out what i have done to my other cars please browse http://photobucket.com/albums/v430/SR910/ )

buildup

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:26 pm
by blackmav
step 1 make friends with an engineer
step 2 make friends with Liam at big balls offroad-the zuk is his
step 3 search members

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:49 pm
by -Mick-
its probably on lux diffs. most 'big' zukes are. Why the hell do you want it so high though :?:

High does not = capable but if its all for posing then go as high as you want :roll:

zuk

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:50 pm
by blackmav
not lux diffs-Dana 44's

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:57 pm
by SRT910
its not built to be practicle.

I have only owned fast/powerful cars so im after somethign i can cruise around and be very unique, this is why i think its so apealing to me.

Do any of you have an close up pics of the suspension set up of something liek this that i can study?

u

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:27 pm
by blackmav
hope you have plenty of time on your hands, and can weld. just keep reading as much as you can on this site and you can learn alot without making major mistakes. its all here just search.
where did you get the pic from??

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:48 pm
by SRT910
I am quite proficient with a mig, and i have some friends that weld alloy and steel with TIG all day so it shouldnt be too much of a problem. Im just resurching as much as possible before i make any purchases.


I am a member of www.performanceforums.com i got the pic from a guy there called Towie, he owns the towing company that the 4x4 is on. He had a 13bt sigma, before it was stolen. Was a show car with over 350 rwkw.

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:16 pm
by redzook
if you want the diffs to hold up (id assume u are goin to be runnin a few hp and not the stock zuk motor) u should go hilux diffs
they should be plenty strong. if you want a bit of lift go SOA or SPOA (Spring Over Axel) with a bit of a body lift maybe 2 inches it will look tall and should fit 35" tires i think the ones on the pic u posted are 35.5 inches tall ( i also think they are Dana 44 diffs also they have been shortened a bit so they are not to wide)

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:31 pm
by SRT910
If i was to go lux diffs, spoa, 35" tyres, 2-3" body lift maby extend the chassis to fit large leafs, would it look somewhat "identical" to the pic i posted?

What leafs would be best to use? Is custom ones avalible? I would assume trying to use ones from a bigger car would be much cheaper?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:27 pm
by Hybrid
Where are you? You sure as hell wont be cruising around for long up here in QLD in somehting like that. :lol:

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:01 am
by SRT910
Im in SA, i dont know how much of a peoblem i will have, i have engineered a sr20det bluebird i got and i had t do a lane change test, hell knows how a 4x4 like that will pass if i get defected.

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:44 am
by benno_from_brizvegas
love those number plates :D


Benno

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:25 am
by Mudzuki
benno_from_brizvegas wrote:love those number plates :D


Benno


Second that

But a very nice zuk all the same.

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:34 am
by bogged
Call Sam at Overkill, or Liam at Bigballsoffroad.

they will answer everything.

So your going to build something like that just to drive Brighton and the cross on a friday night in?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:44 am
by SRT910
not really, i like building these type of things for the fun of building it, and where i live there are some good 4wd tracks, not that a normal 4x4 couldnt do them i dont think.

I just like the engineering challange of putting all different parts together.

In my gallery u can see a bluebird trx, that i have custom fitted IRS from a MR30 skyline into (australian bluebirds never came out with IRS, just trailing arm setup)

I like building things out of the ordinary, like my bluebird wagon that had 244 rwkw, soon to be 300 rwkw with new motor thats int he gallery.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:27 am
by Liam
Thats only a two inch bodylift.

Why the hell do you want it so high though
It looks higher than it is because we cut the smut out of the guards.
It's 14 inches higher than stock- but 20 inches wider, 8 inch wheel base stretch and heaps longer springs- so it's actually quite stable. Having sheet lots of weight in the tyres and diffs but reducing the weight sprung weight has helped even more.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:23 am
by eliteforce32
srt910, if u like building things so much why don't u come up to qld and u can do all my mods,?????