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Fj 40 302 or 3B

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:18 am
by fj40v8
Hi guys,
I am after some advice, I have had my 302 for about 2 months now and I am happy with it, however I has started to lose oil pressure when she warms up, I have been told that it is possibly a blocked pick up or a dropped bearing.
In the mean time a guy I work with has offered me a strait swap for a deisel BJ40 the rigs line up like this:

FJ40:
302 WIndsor (engineered) but stuffed maybe
6 month rego
60 series Disk Brake front end (who said bolt up conversion???)
Sunraisers
roll bar
60 series seats
all auto elect just replaced.
gas conversion

BJ 40
3b Deisel (rebuilt 30,000 K ago)
calais seats
bull bar
Warn 8274 winch
35in BFG muddies
NO REGO (blueslip fro NSW required)
soft top
roll bar
painted in brock blue (not a bad job)
CD player
MOMO wheel
king springs (2inch lift)
extended shackles

The bodys are about the same condition the 3b has a leaking injector pump, transfer case i have been told that these are seals. and the fj40 conversion is a bit sloppy but nevertheless is engineered.

which way would you go ?? :roll:

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:38 am
by Busiboy
Flush your oil system with some sort of cleaning crap you get from the auto shop before you make up your mind.

The 3b looks like a stronger 4x4 but will be a lot slower, but hey if you have a stuffed engine it will save you some stress later.

The question is the devil you know or the devil you don't.

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:47 am
by fj40v8
I have changed the oil and filter but made no difference, while I was there i should have tken the sump off and had look, the prob is it is also a daily driver for me I dive from Newy to Hornsby (130km) the gas was pretty cheap so deisel may be a bit pricey whats the expected litres per 100 out of a 3 b ?

t

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:42 am
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
why not buy another 302?? they would only be a few hundred???

and your crazy driving ya 40 that far each day even on gas.

blue slip would be a hassle on the diesel 40. but i will have his shackles??

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:50 am
by fj40v8
I thought about a new 302 but the deisel throws a new appeal especially with the winch onit and the soft top already done, what sort of hassles am I likley to run into trying to blue slip it ?

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:14 pm
by bj42turbo
You have to ask ;) :D

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:26 pm
by pcman
keep the v8 all the diesel owners go mad rapidly
"points at bj42turbo"

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:36 pm
by fj40v8
what shuold I check for (the obvious)

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:39 pm
by fj40v8
lol there seems to be an issue over which is better Deisel or Petrol and I will be the first to open the can 'o' worms again in the case in question:
Bj 40 3B deisel
or
FJ 40 302 V8
(all other things being equal such as body, drivetrain ect:)

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:58 pm
by bj42turbo
I not 100% sure but if it is a BJ40 it will have a 3.0 B diesel, BJ42 has a 3.4 3B diesel, again don't shoot me down as I am not 100%



Cheers Dazz

P.S Become one of us, get the diesel :D

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:59 pm
by bj42turbo
pcman wrote:keep the v8 all the diesel owners go mad rapidly
"points at bj42turbo"


Lol

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:07 pm
by Swifty
G'day, my 2cents worth.
I've had both FJ40 (1974 2f stock), and currently drive a BJ42 (1982 3b turbo) Even with the exra cost of diesle motors and servicing i still reckon a diesle is the way to go. Especially off road :) .All other things considered it sounds like a decent swap.







P.S i didn't "go" mad. I've been that way for quite some time ;)

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:22 pm
by bj42turbo
Swifty wrote:G'day, my 2cents worth.
I've had both FJ40 (1974 2f stock), and currently drive a BJ42 (1982 3b turbo) Even with the exra cost of diesle motors and servicing i still reckon a diesle is the way to go. Especially off road :) .All other things considered it sounds like a decent swap.


I didn't know you had a turbo, dont tell Scotto what ever you do.


Cheers Dazz

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:27 pm
by spazbot
ask him if will sell the diesel rig as it is.

btw if he if offering the swap he prolly knows your rig is better than his and can get yours running on the raod again alot cheaper than what hes already got

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:37 pm
by scotto
pcman wrote:keep the v8 all the diesel owners go mad rapidly
"points at bj42turbo"


ITS THE SMELL OF VICTORY....and gasOline

bj42turbo wrote:I not 100% sure but if it is a BJ40 it will have a 3.0 B diesel, BJ42 has a 3.4 3B diesel, again don't shoot me down as I am not 100%



Cheers Dazz

P.S Become one of us, get the diesel :D


JOIN US :D
Daz spot on
3B is all but gutless, but real reliable and efficient
It is good engine to turboifyamacate
the old school internals apparently have better oil lube jets which is good in any case but if rebuilt recently it will be good n strong place to start
do a turbo PROPERLY and you will haul ass with no whiney petrol V8 problems

anyhoo, mine has never given up :D

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:39 pm
by scotto
did someone say t--urbo
i have done my window shopping it aint gonna be pretty

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:31 am
by Busiboy
spazbot wrote:ask him if will sell the diesel rig as it is.

btw if he if offering the swap he prolly knows your rig is better than his and can get yours running on the raod again alot cheaper than what hes already got


It is pretty much the only reason I would swap.

Unless he is going for a more of a road car than offroad.

petrol vs diesel is one argument, V8 vs standard old tired factory un-turbo-ed diesel is a very different argument.

What do you want. 100 + k's a day in something you want to push is going to be a different experience too.

Scott

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:47 am
by DAZ
last i herd there still making petrol and most of the people i know that by a desil pay a sh$#t load to make it go like a petrol

and if you have a garage to put it in you have to open the roller door b4 you glow plug

then there is another question why whould you by a 40 :D

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:43 pm
by Busiboy
Only a real lunatic would get themselves a 20 plus year old car and spend more time modifying it than driving it, hang on I spend more time......

Ummm

:lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:13 pm
by scotto
Busiboy wrote:Only a real lunatic would get themselves a 20 plus year old car and spend more time modifying it than driving it, hang on I spend more time......

Ummm

:lol:


you are not alone :roll:

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:20 am
by DAZ
scotto wrote:
Busiboy wrote:Only a real lunatic would get themselves a 20 plus year old car and spend more time modifying it than driving it, hang on I spend more time......

Ummm

:lol:


you are not alone :roll:


yep me loony my wife saids i have an obsesive compolsive disorder

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:09 pm
by bad_religion_au
DAZ wrote:
scotto wrote:
Busiboy wrote:Only a real lunatic would get themselves a 20 plus year old car and spend more time modifying it than driving it, hang on I spend more time......

Ummm

:lol:


you are not alone :roll:


yep me loony my wife saids i have an obsesive compolsive disorder


obsessive compulsive? nah it's called being married

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:44 am
by fj40v8
Hi guys sorry I have not replied, I have had it checked out by a mate in the know and he advised me to do it, apparantly it is a 3.4 L and after extensive checks all is ok. the concern I have is it seems to have a D badged on the block looks like a Daihatsu D what the hell is this !!

thanks again for all the advise :lol:

Shaun

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:34 pm
by bj42turbo
fj40v8 wrote:,Hi guys sorry I have not replied I have had it checked out by a mate in the know and he advised me to do it, apparantly it is a 3.4 L and after extensive checks all is ok. the concern I have is it seems to have a D badged on the block looks like a Daihatsu D what the hell is this !!

thanks again for all the advise :lol:

Shaun


Thats alright mate we just chatted amongst ourselves

Cheers Dazz

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:01 pm
by fj40v8
lol .... thought as much Dazz !!