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farked fuel tank

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:01 pm
by muppet_man67
I came down real hard on the petrol tank the other day and added a huge dint to it. :twisted: The fuel gauge now only reads to just below half. :? Soap is stopping it from leaking. :roll: I think It might need replacing. :x

Anyone got a spare tank for a sierra? :)

Anyone know if a widetrack tank will fit up easily to a coil sierra? ;)
Thanks to anyone who can help.

And no I dont have pics :D

Re: farked fuel tank

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:21 pm
by bigsteve
muppet_man67 wrote:I came down real hard on the petrol tank the other day and added a huge dint to it. :twisted: The fuel gauge now only reads to just below half. :? Soap is stopping it from leaking. :roll: I think It might need replacing. :x

Anyone got a spare tank for a sierra? :)

Anyone know if a widetrack tank will fit up easily to a coil sierra? ;)
Thanks to anyone who can help.

And no I dont have pics :D


Got one in my garage, buts its Gregs ;)

The coiler tanks are differnt to the leafys

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:25 pm
by flyinwall
i got 2 out of lwb traybacks that im not using

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:26 pm
by muppet_man67
they are different but will they work? The injection equipment in the coiler tank is useless to me anyway because I dont have injection.
Maybe it could be swapped over anyhow. Do you know anything about the mounts or fuel line connections etc if they are different or can be easily swapped? Whats greg going to do with it? would he swap if for a busted one and cash :D

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:30 pm
by bigsteve
muppet_man67 wrote:they are different but will they work? The injection equipment in the coiler tank is useless to me anyway because I dont have injection.
Maybe it could be swapped over anyhow. Do you know anything about the mounts or fuel line connections etc if they are different or can be easily swapped? Whats greg going to do with it? would he swap if for a busted one and cash :D


I'll get hime to compare the 2 tanks. but i'm pretty sure where the sender unit bolts in is different from leafy to coily.

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:32 pm
by toysuzi
hey muppet man

i have a long ranger fuel tank for a coily

ive been told its 75litres
its 100% complete with sender hoses & mounting clamps

whats it worth to you ????

daryl

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:38 pm
by bigsteve
HEHE an LR tank was going to be my next suggestion.

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:50 pm
by toysuzi
pm sent muppet man

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:47 pm
by christover1
I think the LR tanks are actually thicker and stronger, too???/

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:17 pm
by RB zook
daryl mate ill be up there real soon and im verry much in need of a new fuel tank

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:27 pm
by toysuzi
hey ryan

yeah no probs drop around n check it out

i got the L-RANGER for my project but unsure if ill be using it. with the chassis extension n all

you still got my number

daryl

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:34 pm
by RB zook
yeah mate prolly c u in a few days i need a new tank mine is really buggered :x

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:30 am
by HRZOOK
Not if I beat you there RBZOOK

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:47 am
by muppet_man67
evryone is telling fibs. :roll: yes the tanks are different but it wont stop you fitting them.
I fitted one from a long wheel base 1 liter.
The bolt pattern is the same and size and shape are the same. the only difference being that the coily tank has a fuel sender that is interchangeable with a fuel pump sender for efi. My new tank has a drain plug (it may come in handy) and it has no dints :D

Also early models of sierra didnt have a little white bottle that sits in the panel just above the rear righthand wheel so I had no connection on the tank for the tube from this to go to.

Other then that everything was able to be clamped on and is working fine now exept for the fuel gauge which is permanantly sitting just below half Ill try swapping over the fuel gauges. I doubt that it is due to the tanks being incompatible. More likely that the fuel gauge is stuffed.

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:11 am
by christover1
muppet_man67 wrote:
I fitted one from a long wheel base 1 liter.
Also early models of sierra didnt have a little white bottle that sits in the panel just above the rear righthand wheel so I had no connection on the tank for the tube from this to go to.


mines an early 1.0 Litre LWB and it does have the little white bottle thingy, and it is hooked up to my new tank.
drain plug is a great thing, just drain off a litre or so, evey now and then, fuel/carby will love ya.
christover

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:51 pm
by muppet_man67
Ive swapped the fuel gauges over and it is now working fine :D

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:33 pm
by bigsteve
So you fitted a leafy tank & leafy pickup yes?

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:21 pm
by christover1
If there is no provision for connection to the white bottle, and therefore the carbon cannister, you may have no tank breather..this is important as your tank may suck itself into a collapse....if needeed you can use a petrol cap that breathes...if your tank goes woosh when opened, it says no breather, or breather blocked up..christover

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:22 pm
by muppet_man67
bigsteve wrote:So you fitted a leafy tank & leafy pickup yes?
the leafy pickup had a thread (like a bolt) on it that we cut off then we just connected the hose to it with hose clamps. The tank I think was from a long wheelbase.

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:29 pm
by muppet_man67
christover1 wrote:If there is no provision for connection to the white bottle, and therefore the carbon cannister, you may have no tank breather..this is important as your tank may suck itself into a collapse....if needeed you can use a petrol cap that breathes...if your tank goes woosh when opened, it says no breather, or breather blocked up..christover
I just checked no woosh the breather is conected but as you said there is no provision on the tank for the white bottle. There is something connected to every hole.

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:38 pm
by christover1
muppet_man67 wrote:
christover1 wrote:If there is no provision for connection to the white bottle, and therefore the carbon cannister, you may have no tank breather..this is important as your tank may suck itself into a collapse....if needeed you can use a petrol cap that breathes...if your tank goes woosh when opened, it says no breather, or breather blocked up..christover
I just checked no woosh the breather is conected but as you said there is no provision on the tank for the white bottle. There is something connected to every hole.


1 pick up to supply pump.
1 return line for unused fuel from pump.
1 fill up breather (quick fill) that goes to the filler near the cap.
1 breather, which normally goes to white bottle, but can go straight to the carbon cannister under the bonnet.
Early zooks had breathing thru the fuel cap.
glad its all ok.
drain plugz r kewl.
christover

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:49 pm
by Santos
christover1 wrote:If there is no provision for connection to the white bottle, and therefore the carbon cannister, you may have no tank breather..this is important as your tank may suck itself into a collapse....if needeed you can use a petrol cap that breathes...if your tank goes woosh when opened, it says no breather, or breather blocked up..christover


So what does it means if your tank farts?

The other day i was like running nigh on empty and i opened the tank and the gas pushed out

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:11 pm
by christover1
Santos wrote:
christover1 wrote:If there is no provision for connection to the white bottle, and therefore the carbon cannister, you may have no tank breather..this is important as your tank may suck itself into a collapse....if needeed you can use a petrol cap that breathes...if your tank goes woosh when opened, it says no breather, or breather blocked up..christover


So what does it means if your tank farts?

The other day i was like running nigh on empty and i opened the tank and the gas pushed out


out is too much pressure, but a little is normal when tank is low....but if pressure is too high you get flooding thru carb, even if not driving... the carbon cannisters can block up.....

if it sucks its also blocked on the in rather than out...

you can check by removing end of pipe and putting a filter on, see if car goes betterer.. christover

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:11 pm
by nicbeer
Santos.

The gas was probably what u where running on. Most likely just buildup.

cheers

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:06 pm
by Santos
nicbeer wrote:Santos.

The gas was probably what u where running on. Most likely just buildup.

cheers


slaps forehead... so it's an LPG?! :P

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:40 pm
by muppet_man67
I followed the tube that is disconected it went to the little white bottle. I then followed the tube that exits the little white bottle it goes to the carbon canister. I have 3 tubes connected, a quick fill breather, a pickup and a return. My tank shouldnt be breathing. :?

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:51 pm
by christover1
muppet_man67 wrote:I followed the tube that is disconected it went to the little white bottle. I then followed the tube that exits the little white bottle it goes to the carbon canister. I have 3 tubes connected, a quick fill breather, a pickup and a return. My tank shouldnt be breathing. :?


not cool :cry: but I bet the cap leaks enough air to breathe anyway :) happy new year

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:55 pm
by christover1
ps if you dont use the carbon cannister fer breather, it may be wise to block off the vaccuum pipe, as it may affect running? It goes from cannister to inlet manifold somewhere

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:57 pm
by muppet_man67
yea i will see how it goes. how will this effect the running of the car. I see the carbon canister goes strait to the carby?

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:49 pm
by christover1
muppet_man67 wrote:yea i will see how it goes. how will this effect the running of the car. I see the carbon canister goes strait to the carby?


vaccuum leak will only be small, not sure how exactly that would affect running.....the small amount of fuel vapour missing may be a prob..,.. suckin air may affect mixture slightlty ....too technical fer me, but I ran mine without the cannister fer a while, as it was blocked with mud, and just blocked the pipe to the carb with a small bolt and cable tie...it ran fine. christover