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Electronic rust prevention
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:31 pm
by muddyperils
Been reading more adds lately, Has any-one got some info/news on these electronic rust proofing devices such as CouterAct/coupler tec...????
Or are they in the same catagory as the Hyclone......CHEERS
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:53 pm
by Tasrocky
They can't be too bad. The pier at Beauty Point uses a similar set-up and the ads talk about big industry using them. The best way to find out would be to ring one of the companies or life-saver clubs in the ad and find out what they think. BHP aren't going to risk something like a 50+Km conveyer belt.
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:19 pm
by skippy's GQ
if you are going to use one, you need to find one that puts out over 300 volts or its not worth buying..
E.E.P.S seams to be the best on the market
http://www.erps.com.au
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:40 pm
by Screwy
counteract isnt a bad product at all.
the X father in law is a installer of them.
i gave him a hand to put them in a coupla times.
he also has them on all his cars.
they replace the electrons that the rust pulls away from the metal.
if there is no rust, u will almost completely prevent it for the future.
if there is some rust it will dramatically slow the rate of decay.
i will put one on my rigs one day but i dont have the money and its not my highest priority....
screwy
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 7:07 pm
by brighty
ok, there was a topic on this not so long ago. Check this thread out,
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=362208&highlight=dr+karl#362208
Have a read of Dr Karl's opinion on the whole issue... quite interesting I think, as there's not much that he doesn't know something about given all the degrees he has. Just food for thought, thats all.
Good Luck.
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 7:38 pm
by stuee
After two unit of chemistry type stuff at uni (a lot covering corrosion as its an engineering degree) the chemistry seems alright. Like skippy's MQ said you need one with the right voltage and power to ensure it actually works.
I actually found this not long ago about removing rust using electrochemistry (all the same principals). Its probabley very dangerous but the results speak for themselves.
http://www.stk-dakar.pwp.blueyonder.co. ... olysis.htm
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:59 pm
by muddyperils
Thanks guys, was going to buy one right before I read Dr. Carls Info., looks like the old stinky fish oil smell is going to annoy the locals for a wile....
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:21 am
by Jeeps
I use my TJ on the beach a fair bit so i had ERPS fitted in 02'. Until recently i thought it was a load of crap but i have noticed that my steel bows and screws for the softtop (which are insulated from body metal) have been rusting slowly for the past few months and thought nothing of it but i had a closer look and they are getting eaten bigtime. I will remove them and repaint them tomorrow and replace the screws with stainless ones.
On the same note, i have 2 chrome recovery hooks bolted to the front of the TJ and before i fitted ERPS i had to sand and repaint them 2-3 times within 6 months due to surface rust. Since i fitted the ERPS i have only had to do it once in 3 years. The same applies to my Hayman Reese towbar
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:30 am
by muddyperils
Jeeps wrote:I use my TJ on the beach a fair bit so i had ERPS fitted in 02'. Until recently i thought it was a load of crap but i have noticed that my steel bows and screws for the softtop (which are insulated from body metal) have been rusting slowly for the past few months and thought nothing of it but i had a closer look and they are getting eaten bigtime. I will remove them and repaint them tomorrow and replace the screws with stainless ones.
On the same note, i have 2 chrome recovery hooks bolted to the front of the TJ and before i fitted ERPS i had to sand and repaint them 2-3 times within 6 months due to surface rust. Since i fitted the ERPS i have only had to do it once in 3 years. The same applies to my Hayman Reese towbar
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Thanks JEEPS, that sounds very promising indeed......
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:06 am
by JK
I have the ERPS setup. Live on the Castal Fringe and it appears to be holding back the red cancer so far.
Any scratches in the paint don't rust up like they would without the system. I make the effort to paint scratches with touchup paint to seal the coat.
If you are going to choose the ERPS system, go the 8-coupler system if you have an older car.
Take the time to pull out all the insides and dry the vehicle out (as is likely that they will be damp if you have any minor leaks around windows or doors or in the floorpan). Silicone seal any unnecessarty holes in the floorpan & firewall. Lanolin or fishoil the interior and install the couplers and reinstall the interior.
If you are genuine about looking after your truck, there is no substitute for a really good cleanup, bitumen paint the chassis and underside of body wherever you can reach. Fix any scratches / dents where bare metal is showing. All this work is really quite cheap to do and is only labour.
Even being as thourough as you can possibly be there will be places of the car you can't reach and this is where the electronic protection comes into is own.
Good maintenace combined with electronic protection will give the most effective corrostion protection for your vehicle.