Outer Limits 4x4 Board

What eight did you use
How much did it cost you
Why did you choose that eight
Why did you go Auto or Manuel
Was there easy access to of the shelf parts and adapters
Were did you purchase your adapters from
How reliable is it
Are you getting better economy
Was it worth it
What would you change
Unforseen costs
How did you get it complianced
Did you have to take the truck to transport to verify

LudaCris

VN injected 308

the motor cost 3000 all up around 5000 i think

kept the nissan auto beefed it up its aot better offroad i reckon anyway

easy as got all gear from marks 4wd adapters

fairly reliable nothing has gone wrong in a year

heaps better economy than original 4.2 petrol

yes well worth it

probably go for a gen 3 instead

all little bits and pieces unforseen brackets nuts bolts hoses fluids etc

went through someone i know of who did mod plates

yes had to take to transport but they didn't care about the lift the tyres even the unapproved body lift it was someone behind the counter that came out and checked engine no's

Awsome Bartso. Thanks.

Any body else?

LudaCris

2 x 350 TBI
1 x 350 LT1
1 x 350 LS1 to do in Feb
It cost the cust's lots
No substitute for cubic inches
Used Nissan 5 sp ,good strong reliable box , lots of auto horror stories.
Used Mark's adaptor's ,all 3 were out of true,thrust brg carrier to engine face which cause's clutch slip,not a major to fix first after you know about it.Contacted Mark's, "No, thats never happened before !!!!,are you sure??"
I always use a good auto sparky so reliability is good
They were all diesels before so economy is a joke.
Well worth it ,cust's are happy and are my best adverts.
Make sure you use a HEAVY DUTY clutch kit
J Top

vp v8 into hj47
vp ss motor $1700 with engine harness and computer
castlemaine rod shop bellhousing to suit gq 5 speed $395 + freight
made own engine mounts to suit commodore mounts
need to work out speedo yet[prob marks?]
my toyota needed radiator bottom tank changed to opp side
clutch i used old style holden v8 flywheel and hz holden pressure plate, gq clutch plate and bearing rod shop supplies a bearing spacer and bronze crankshaft bush,bolts for the bellhousing to engine as well.

J Top wrote:Used Mark's adaptor's ,all 3 were out of true,thrust brg carrier to engine face which cause's clutch slip,not a major to fix first after you know about it.Contacted Mark's, "No, thats never happened before !!!!,are you sure??"
J Top

funny you should say but you know the adapter that changes the flywheel bolt pattern (on auto adapter anyway) not the housing but it is the wrong length out by about 3mm which is causing the lock up to drop in and out and wears away the lock up haven't contacted marks about this at the moment but i don't think its worth it pretty sure marks won't compensate me
Don't get me wrong im not bagging marks but just saying

also had problems with marks, it was a mq transfer adaptor to t700 gm auto after about 1 year thebolts on the adaptor pulled the thread out of the soft alloy. helicoils fixed no problems from then on

do they know about these problems
my problem is costing me a fortune i am paying someone to remove my gearbox new torque converter new oil someone to machine up a new adapter 3mm longer and to put the gearbox back in
as i said im sure marks won't fit the bill for this

bartso, what allerted you to this problem of the lock up / torque - convertor

hey bartso. on your injected 5litre's economy, would it be around 15 litres 100k for daily use? if so it would make converting from diesel viable for me when the different cost of fuel is taken into account.
ta

bubs wrote:bartso, what allerted you to this problem of the lock up / torque - convertor

lock up should drop out if there is to much weight on it or if you put your foot down a little bit and mine didn't do this
also it would drop in and out while driving alondg the highway then all of a sudden drop out and not come back on initially i thought it was a electronic problem but its not i found someone on the gold coast who has been looking into this and this is what he thinks the the adapter for different flywheels is about 3mm to short

sorry ludacris stealing your thread a bit here

It is all good stuff for us all to learn.

LudaCris

ludacris wrote:What eight did you use
How much did it cost you
Why did you choose that eight
Why did you go Auto or Manuel
Was there easy access to of the shelf parts and adapters
Were did you purchase your adapters from
How reliable is it
Are you getting better economy
Was it worth it
What would you change
Unforseen costs
How did you get it complianced
Did you have to take the truck to transport to verify

LudaCris

hopefully under 10 000
ballsey and aftermarket stuff available, 300 kw
marks kit and home made engine mounts
not finished yet.
come and have a look if you want, my truck is still where you saw it last
0402337734
cheers bru

I will give you a call when I am going up your way champ.


LudaCris

Nissan VH45

Jap V8 s are small cubes so their torque curve starts higher up the rev range.Not ideal for the truck application we have.
LT1 234kw at rear hubs GQ 4.6 diffs.
350 TBI alloy heads,400 crank etc 275kw at rear hubs GQ 4.1 diffs
The wheel size was taken out of the equation with the drive taken directly from the rear hubs.
J Top

Ok I have enquiered about the VH45 and with an Auto around $3500.
I enquired about parts for it and they are ready available at Nissan.
Just one option that might be cheapish compared to lets say an LT1.

LudaCris

Bartso wrote:VN injected 308

the motor cost 3000 all up around 5000 i think

heaps better economy than original 4.2 petrol

whats the economy like on road city/highway and also offroad compared with a 4.2 petrol?

you on straight petrol or have gas?

possibly considering a v8 swap in the distant future. and i have heard that a VN 308 sounds good. stupid me i could have got one (whole car) perfection condition etc for 4000 for VN SS, should have bought it, it was my boss's car.

hottiemonster wrote:

Bartso wrote:VN injected 308

the motor cost 3000 all up around 5000 i think

heaps better economy than original 4.2 petrol

whats the economy like on road city/highway and also offroad compared with a 4.2 petrol?

you on straight petrol or have gas?

possibly considering a v8 swap in the distant future. and i have heard that a VN 308 sounds good. stupid me i could have got one (whole car) perfection condition etc for 4000 for VN SS, should have bought it, it was my boss's car.

i don't have exact figures but i get roughy 350 - 400 km's per tank 75L around town taking it easy ofcourse drive it like a V8 and it will drink like a V8 on highway can't realy tell you but if i had to gues maybe 500-550km's

off road is where i have noticed the improvement the most going up hill climb it just crawls and i haven't got the oppriate diff gears in mud it throws the mud away it has far better throttle response

I am in NZ and have just fitted a LT1 injected corvette 5.7 litre into my 97 shorty with manual gear box. Used marks adaptors and I also found it was way out of alignment(2 others in our club had same problem) Took the problem up with Marks but they didnt want to know about it. They said they sell hundreds in Aussie and no-one has problems over there. Very disappoinrted with their attiitude. Truck goes really well now, better than the propane injected, turbo diesel I had in it
Heeps of rain here at the moment
Mad
cheers Larry

Bartso wrote:VN injected 308

the motor cost 3000 all up around 5000 i think

kept the nissan auto beefed it up its aot better offroad i reckon anyway

easy as got all gear from marks 4wd adapters

fairly reliable nothing has gone wrong in a year

heaps better economy than original 4.2 petrol

yes well worth it

probably go for a gen 3 instead

all little bits and pieces unforseen brackets nuts bolts hoses fluids etc

went through someone i know of who did mod plates

yes had to take to transport but they didn't care about the lift the tyres even the unapproved body lift it was someone behind the counter that came out and checked engine no's

Sorry Ludacris dont mean to steel ya thread.
I too are interested indoing this with a Vp 5lt, Questions

What Starter motor do you use Orig or Other ?
Radiator Original Nissan or Other ?
Extractors to fit 5Lt Vp motor to nissan

Did you run into any dramas?
Darren

The Big Green Meany wrote:

Bartso wrote:VN injected 308

the motor cost 3000 all up around 5000 i think

kept the nissan auto beefed it up its aot better offroad i reckon anyway

easy as got all gear from marks 4wd adapters

fairly reliable nothing has gone wrong in a year

heaps better economy than original 4.2 petrol

yes well worth it

probably go for a gen 3 instead

all little bits and pieces unforseen brackets nuts bolts hoses fluids etc

went through someone i know of who did mod plates

yes had to take to transport but they didn't care about the lift the tyres even the unapproved body lift it was someone behind the counter that came out and checked engine no's

Sorry Ludacris dont mean to steel ya thread.
I too are interested indoing this with a Vp 5lt, Questions

What Starter motor do you use Orig or Other ?
Radiator Original Nissan or Other ?
Extractors to fit 5Lt Vp motor to nissan

Did you run into any dramas?
Darren

if you are intending on using the nissan 5 speed you will have no problem at all i only had a problem with the nissan auto the electronic side of things but anyway the starter motor is commodore due to marks adapter kit you can use the nissan radiator if it is from a diesel so i got one from a HJ60 cruiser diesel 4 core it cools great i have taken a lot of fins out and it stills cools good
extractors well i haven't got them yet but i dare say custom job, come check it out if you want

With the extractors dont forget to check with mr linn ludachris as like i was saying at your shop he has one side from say vn and the other from say vx as a example.

Cheers Champ.

LudaCris

if u do a V8 conversion to say a 91 patrol ...
what are the laws with what type of engine + emission laws and all that


can i dump say a carby 351windsor or clevo into my 90 model patrol?

personally i wouldn't go carby get injected

nah i'll be on LPG

ludacris wrote:Ok I have enquiered about the VH45 and with an Auto around $3500.
I enquired about parts for it and they are ready available at Nissan.
Just one option that might be cheapish compared to lets say an LT1.

LudaCris

Okay you want more power but have you really thought about the turbo option??? I know V8 is the more traditional way to go but i am confident there will be very few V8 conversions that will give you as much grunt and reliability for less money than a well set up TB42 turbo. Half of you blokes already have the most important part of the job; the motor. Even if you had a TD42 the conversion is way easier than putting an old V8 clunker in.

Bartso wrote:

The Big Green Meany wrote:

Bartso wrote:VN injected 308

the motor cost 3000 all up around 5000 i think

kept the nissan auto beefed it up its aot better offroad i reckon anyway

easy as got all gear from marks 4wd adapters

fairly reliable nothing has gone wrong in a year

heaps better economy than original 4.2 petrol

yes well worth it

probably go for a gen 3 instead

all little bits and pieces unforseen brackets nuts bolts hoses fluids etc

went through someone i know of who did mod plates

yes had to take to transport but they didn't care about the lift the tyres even the unapproved body lift it was someone behind the counter that came out and checked engine no's

Sorry Ludacris dont mean to steel ya thread.
I too are interested indoing this with a Vp 5lt, Questions

What Starter motor do you use Orig or Other ?
Radiator Original Nissan or Other ?
Extractors to fit 5Lt Vp motor to nissan

Did you run into any dramas?
Darren

if you are intending on using the nissan 5 speed you will have no problem at all i only had a problem with the nissan auto the electronic side of things but anyway the starter motor is commodore due to marks adapter kit you can use the nissan radiator if it is from a diesel so i got one from a HJ60 cruiser diesel 4 core it cools great i have taken a lot of fins out and it stills cools good
extractors well i haven't got them yet but i dare say custom job, come check it out if you want

Bartso,
Ill take you up on that, Ill PM you when I get a chance to get up that way.