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Hey guys, finally got off my ass and did something productive today.
though I need some help my front end has got enough flex for me at the moment but the rear needs a sh*t load of attention. Has anyone come across rear springs that are not mazada springs and flex well??

sure its not a lack of shock travel ?

big red lux

i run mazda's in the rear but only due to the fact i did not want to change the spring mounts on my current daily driver if it wasn't for that i would change in an instant. but if this doesn't concern you the choices are endless

stock mounts - off the top of my head
mazda - myself - nick - dave - hi runner use them to name a few
toyota ifs rears - ruff - beebee - all i know of

changed mounts
explorers / falcons - killalux - hypolux - pos (used to)
chevies - cplux - nick (used to)

hope to help - i think this info is right

this is richard at 4x4 engineerings setup

full on custom about the same length as a chevy with drop shackles

there is some info and pics of my setup here
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2169

Punchy the shocks were disconnected so no it wasn't the shocks.
Thanks bubs, helps alot.
Killalux much appriciated.

The best advise I can give is play around with the hilux springs.I went to mazda springs but I have seen some good flex from hilux springs.Reset the hilux springs to around 3inchs remove some off the leafs.This will settle the spring and also bring it back to normal high.Make sore the swing hanger is at 45 degrees.I think this way is easy and not so costly. 8) 8) 8)

bubs wrote:this is richard at 4x4 engineerings setup

full on custom about the same length as a chevy with drop shackles

mines got that in the rear with the falcons and no drop shackle crap

drop shackles are :rainbow warrior: style

they make pinion go bye bye!! (If on a rig driven hard) If they are on a softcore poser rig, like bubs, you will never notice so it won't matter.

bj on roids wrote:drop shackles are :rainbow warrior: style

they make pinion go bye bye!! (If on a rig driven hard) If they are on a softcore poser rig, like bubs, you will never notice so it won't matter.

oh and you wheel BJ - i dont and never will run drop shackles - each to there own 8)

The best flex i have seen in a leaf sprung hilux would have to be HYPO's.

I also agree with HI-RUNNER, if you play around with stock hilux springs and mix and match and you don't mind a bit of stuffing around you can get really good flex out of stockers.

I wouldn't spend money on drop shackles or the likes, they do help wheel travel but thats about it, Hello SKIPPY!

I am yet to see any of these custom springs out perform a sagged, flogged out set of hilux springs, the only after market set that i have seen work are OLD MAN EMU but for $2500.00 they would want to do something! (Still no where near a set of falcons etc)

I think if you want a good ride and good flex you couldn't go to far past Hypo's set-up.

I agree with POS, Bens (Hypos) setup is wicked

HiRunners setup flexes nicely and Dave Camps gold 4runner is super flexy.

Muck around with standard springs first (there are big gains to be had if you're patient) before you spend big $$$

Big Red Hilux,

i cant remember ya name from xrcc but if u want details and pix or info on the falcons PM me and ill gladly help u...

the only prob with the falcons is they dont hold there height for long but that can be sorted easily

Thanks Ben will do,
that would be much appriciated.
Nick

For the record, I no longer have IFS rears. As of yesterday, I am the proud owner of some custom 55" springs. Can't tell you much as I haven't tested them yet but I ran out of ramp height at 900mm (reversing up) and it wanted to go more.

beebee wrote:For the record, I no longer have IFS rears. As of yesterday, I am the proud owner of some custom 55" springs. Can't tell you much as I haven't tested them yet but I ran out of ramp height at 900mm (reversing up) and it wanted to go more.

So about your IFS springs?

What do you need to mount these?

Longer shackle?
Move the spring perch?
Blocks?
How much Lift?

ToNkA wrote:

beebee wrote:For the record, I no longer have IFS rears. As of yesterday, I am the proud owner of some custom 55" springs. Can't tell you much as I haven't tested them yet but I ran out of ramp height at 900mm (reversing up) and it wanted to go more.

So about your IFS springs?

What do you need to mount these?

Longer shackle?
Move the spring perch?
Blocks?
How much Lift?

I cannot answer any of these questions as it was not a stock pack that went in and I didn't have stock shackles and it wasn't in a stock location and even the perches were modified on the axle housing.

Hope this helps!

:(

Im running falcon springs with superior 4wd shackles on rear approx 200 mm longer than stock hilux and parabolics on front with superior 4wd shackles( parabolics are a bit tough to flex but with the shackles they work excellent. You can see some pictures at http://community.webshots.com/user/realux

realux,
what shocks are u running on the front and rear of your rig????

big red hilux wrote:realux,
what shocks are u running on the front and rear of your rig????

On the rear im running 36 inch super lift and on the front i think they are 32inch?(pro comp es 3000)
They are both quite soft shocks.