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Just a little higher?Please!!

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Just a little higher?Please!!

Post by BoyDoneGood »

Hi guys! Firstly Happy New Year,and thanks for a great site!All your posts have helped to see me through some puzzling times!..Its very appreciated!

Am guessing your all getting bored with new guys asking silly questions,but here i go... Ive got a 89 LWB (MK?) (Same shape as MKPatrolGuy with leaf springs all round)..The motor does not go off road,and does about 6 miles aday on tarmac.After comming across your site i got the spanners out!!
Budgets a major factor as still at uni..So far ive put 3"extended spring hanger front n rear(Shackles?) and a set of 4 and a half inch steel machined body lift blocks in...(Squeeked and groaned a bit as i jacked her up,but has driven well and no bad effects for the past 6months)..And finished with a set of 35" tyres with no rubbing.
Whats the next cheap step guys? Ive got a further set of 3 and a half blocks?I know some people say the low chassis and high body look stupid,but hey beggers cant be choosers..Will i get any lift by lowering the other end of the leaf springs?
Any advise or cheap fixes would be great....All im looking for is (monster truckie)hight,not performance or handling
Many thanks guys Tel
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Post by bogged »

BoyDoneGood wrote:a set of 4 and a half inch steel machined body lift blocks in...(Squeeked and groaned a bit as i jacked her up,but has driven well and no bad effects for the past 6months)..And finished with a set of 35" tyres with no rubbing
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Whats the next cheap step guys?

You tell us. Why do you need more lift? You dont go offroad as you said in your opening statement, why do you want more?

Any advise or cheap fixes would be great... All im looking for is (monster truckie)hight,not performance or handling

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Post by XXL Maverick »

No offence, but you might as well ask these guys how to lower a Hyundai Excel (fully sick!!!) Most body lifts/suspension lifts on these pages will actually be used.

Like bogged said, why more height when you don't go off road? I can only see you getting grief from the police/RTA.
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bogged wrote:Image


nice lift :cool:
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Post by mickyd555 »

how the hell do you get into a car like that??? does it come with one of those sets of stairs on the back of a truck, you know like they used to use at the airport :D :D
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Post by Tiny »

[/quote]how the hell do you get into a car like that??? does it come with one of those sets of stairs on the back of a truck, you know like they used to use at the airport

Hmm.. don't know.

Budgets a major factor as still at uni..So far ive put 3"extended spring hanger front n rear(Shackles?) and a set of 4 and a half inch steel machined body lift blocks in...(Squeeked and groaned a bit as i jacked her up,but has driven well and no bad effects for the past 6months)..And finished with a set of 35" tyres with no rubbing.
Whats the next cheap step guys?

what do you mean no rubbing???? driving on the road does not normally induce this!!!! as said above, if you go and do this you are asking for unwanted police attention.

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Post by Gonzo »

BoyDoneGood wrote:All im looking for is (monster truckie)hight,not performance or handling
Many thanks guys Tel


There is a member on this board called CRUSHU, he may be able to help you...
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Gonzo wrote:
BoyDoneGood wrote:All im looking for is (monster truckie)hight,not performance or handling
Many thanks guys Tel


There is a member on this board called CRUSHU, he may be able to help you...


ahhh... thanks for the referal?! I only ran a comercially made 3" body lift, not 4 1/2 inch!! my 3" lift wasn't made by using standard springs with extended shackles or spacers. my suspension travelled ok, and didn't rub with 35's, and only a little with 38.5's at full steering lock.

even with my 9" lift and 3" body lift, i have nearly 1 metre clearance under the transfer case. The 44's will rub at full articulation, so i may start looking for some 42's.

personally, I don't see the similarities. I am building mine to go over a little rough terrain, mitsubishi's, mazda'a and toyota's.

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Post by CRUSHU »

oh, i forgot the advise....... get 2 aluminium ladders, lift the body using 1 ladder each side, layed on it's side. get it polished or anodised for extra effect. if there is any offcut of the ladder, use it to get in and out, maybe hinge it on the sills or something.
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Post by Tiny »

CRUSHU wrote:oh, i forgot the advise....... get 2 aluminium ladders, lift the body using 1 ladder each side, layed on it's side. get it polished or anodised for extra effect. if there is any offcut of the ladder, use it to get in and out, maybe hinge it on the sills or something.


HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE.........ME LIKE :D

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Post by CRUSHU »

silly me, don't buy 2 ladders, get one of these

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2 for the price of 1!!
with the left over rope, you can make a rope ladder to get in!!!
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Post by Heathx4 »

Seriously dude, what you want to do is very rare around here. But each to there own - I'd like to see the results! Here's some honest advice.

You'd be nuts to lift the body any more - nothing will line up, you'll lose the shifters through the floor, the steering shaft will be too short, brake, fuel, breather lines will all be too short. And that's just the things that are easy fixed (and surely with the current lift you've already come across them)! Instead, you'll put incredible stress on the body lift bolts and blocks, as well as the chassis mounts on the bottom and the body mounts on the top. I'm interested to see if you could do it, but my gut feeling says it'll be a shite load of work for little gain, if it is possible to hold it together at all.

Instead, a spring over axle conversion is the go. Just by putting the leaf springs on top of the axle instead of below you'll easy get another 4" out of it. You could really do it on the cheap, but it would be dodgy and dangerous as hell. The tradeoff is your decision of course.

Then lifted springs, cut guards and bigger tyres. Nothing as cheap as your body lift or extended shackles I imagine. Yeah you can drop the fixed chassis spring mount with a spacer or something, but make sure you plate and weld it good. This probably wont give you a lot of lift though (every inch you add is roughly halved in increased height at the wheel).

Hope that helps. To me it sounds like a bit of a money pit, with limited appeal, plenty of personal danger and a cop magnet. But then there's plenty of people who don't understand why I spend money on my POS.
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The new toorak tractor of melbourne !! :roll:
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Post by Tiny »

every time I look at this pic I shake my head and think "there are some fxxking wankers in this world"

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Post by bogged »

#Tiny wrote:every time I look at this pic I shake my head and think "there are some fxxking wankers in this world"

Tiny

They are known as AMERICANS.. :lol: :cool: :lol:
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Post by Tiny »

True, did you look at the link and see the other POS's??? my god what are the fxxking thinking????? they are so pointless and useless

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Post by bogged »

#Tiny wrote:they are so pointless and useless

Tiny :D

the cars or the people?
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Post by Tiny »

Both mate, both :D
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Post by Rainbow Warrior »

#Tiny wrote:every time I look at this pic I shake my head and think "there are some fxxking wankers in this world"

Tiny


Really, it just looks like a stadium car crusher, each their own, I don't imagine that sort of lift was done for wank factor.
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Post by embryo »

yeah bit of an odd question, but spring over is the go with 4" lifted springs, but all that like you body lift should be engeneered. :roll:
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Post by BoyDoneGood »

Ok..Thanks for everyones comments......
I appreciate that im running on a budget and proberly cant do the proper (custom) stuff you guys have, It was just some simple questions to see if anyone could advise me of any easy height gaining mod i had not heard/thought of......(I wouldnt of attempted a body lift until i had found some helpful info on this site stating how easy it was!and this gained me extra inches)..................Sorry
As for the rubbing i mentioned,i meant on lock whilst on the road............Sorry
Over here in the UK we have a Ministry of Transport check once a year.The Patrol as is has just passed this last week,and from the station guys advise,unless im going extreme,simply raising the vehicle to a sensible height does not non void this.........The lift i have at present is not been done with sticky tape and string.The mounts were machined for the job locally and fitted with new rubbers..And the extended shackles were purchased new......
I do apreciate the few helpful qoutes like unwanted police attention etc thou...
Also a great thanks to Heathx4...This really was the sort of information i was hopeing to get...I now know an extra body lift is out of it...I now know lowering the mounts is pointless.....And i now know a spring over is the way to go(but done properly) I thank you for the time you took for your help Heath.....................

Guys im sorry for posting this question now in the first place.I do understand that this is a forum of whos members all help each other,and do a good job of it,and was just hopeing for some simple advise to a begginer.
Thanks
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