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hilux 2L and 3L manifold compatibility
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:58 pm
by De-lux
i have a 3L (2.8 litre) diesel lux and want to put a turbo on it. i have the chance to buy a turbo which is to suit a 2L (2.4 litre diesel) and i am curious if the exhaust manifolds are the same for either models. more so if the stud pattern is the same. i know
my lil lux has a turbo off a 2LT (a 2.4 litre diesel turbo off an old surf) and it bolts straight up.
if anyone has any ideas of whats doing, let me know.
cheers
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:00 pm
by thebrunks
It will bolt straight up, 2L & 3L are the same pattern
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:24 pm
by De-lux
awesome. good work thebrunks
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:14 pm
by thebrunks
If you need any help setting up, drop me a pm & I'll help u out!
Make sure it is water cooled & oil fed!
I've done a few for mates & myself!
Russ
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:07 am
by De-lux
awesome, mate. i will keep you in mind if i need help!
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:25 pm
by dumbdunce
thebrunks wrote:It will bolt straight up, 2L & 3L are the same pattern
no, they aren't. the 2L and 3L heads and manifold patterns are completely different.
the 2L-TII (late 1989 on) and 2L-TE (1990 on, import only) have the same manifold patterns as the 3L, but the earlier 2L and 2L-T are completely different.
the distinguishing feature is the rocker cover - L, 2L, 2L-T have a die cast alloy rocker cover, 2L-TII, 2L-TE, 3L have a pressed steel rocker cover.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:36 pm
by De-lux
i have spoken to some people, and the 2L is different to the 3L.
i have decided to go for a early model surf turbo because it only needs three holes tapped in it for the manifold, and a new sump comes with it for the oil lines.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:51 pm
by phippsy
What do you need a new sump for? The oil return from the turbo runs into a point on the bottom of the block, can't remember though if it added onto another drain, or just used a spare point on the block. Will have a look for. Changing the sump would just be a PITA if you didn't have to do it...
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:00 pm
by De-lux
changing the sump is pretty easy.... drop the oil, undo the 20 or so bolts, romove the sump, put gasket goo on the new one, voila!
it needs a new sump because it has oil feed return lines, apparently. i have no idea where the oil feed line comes from, i assume somewhere on the head.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:46 pm
by RUFF
De-lux wrote:changing the sump is pretty easy.... drop the oil, undo the 20 or so bolts, romove the sump, put gasket goo on the new one, voila!
it needs a new sump because it has oil feed return lines, apparently. i have no idea where the oil feed line comes from, i assume somewhere on the head.
You can pick up the oil from the same place the Altinator pump does and then you return the oil into the same place the altinator pump returns. No need to remove the sump.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:06 pm
by BOGAN V8
just a ???? by picking up the oil feed from the alt would you starve the alt for oil and same with return would it not want to block the return oil coming from the alt if it was tocome in at a right angle.
Just question dont want step on toes...
hunterlux has put a turbo off a 2.4 and got the pick up from the side of the block underneath the oil cooler on drivers side and then returned it in to the sump...... is there anything wrong with that setup....
(not saying your dodgy hunterlux
)
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:23 pm
by De-lux
yeah bogan, thats the way i thought you were meant to do it. pick up from somewhere in the head, and return to either somewhere low on the block, or to this sump return i was talking about earlier.
the way RUFF has mentioned has never crossed my mind.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:27 pm
by BOGAN V8
pick ups in the block not in the head bt thats cool
Mr 3o4 on this site has done how RUFF has said on his 3.3l nissan motor and has had no dramas hunterlux has done it his way and has no dramas either if you talk to a turbo shop they say the hole in sump idea..
who do you believe
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:31 pm
by HUNTERLUX
it was just more of a convienince thing i taped into the oil presure swich hole because the turbo oil lines were bent 4 it & moved the presure switch to the back of the block
i made the return 2 the sump due 2 lack of acess to hydrolic places to get a t piece 4 the alternater + i had a leaky sump so it had 2 b removed anyways
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:11 am
by phippsy
RUFF wrote:De-lux wrote:changing the sump is pretty easy.... drop the oil, undo the 20 or so bolts, romove the sump, put gasket goo on the new one, voila!
it needs a new sump because it has oil feed return lines, apparently. i have no idea where the oil feed line comes from, i assume somewhere on the head.
You can pick up the oil from the same place the Altinator pump does and then you return the oil into the same place the altinator pump returns. No need to remove the sump.
This is how mines setup, just couldn't put the words together properly. Let me know if you want to have a look at it De-Lux.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:48 pm
by De-lux
phippsy wrote:RUFF wrote:De-lux wrote:changing the sump is pretty easy.... drop the oil, undo the 20 or so bolts, romove the sump, put gasket goo on the new one, voila!
it needs a new sump because it has oil feed return lines, apparently. i have no idea where the oil feed line comes from, i assume somewhere on the head.
You can pick up the oil from the same place the Altinator pump does and then you return the oil into the same place the altinator pump returns. No need to remove the sump.
This is how mines setup, just couldn't put the words together properly. Let me know if you want to have a look at it De-Lux.
i'll hold you to that phippsy.
thanks mate